BNP and Mulsim Cartoons...

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I read that the BNP were gonna publish or include these cartoons in their paper. Any thoughts?

[livk]

Tamza, I wouldn't say you were exaggerating. I would however say that thankfully in 2006 your point of view is firmly in the minority in this country and I am glad that it is. A persons sexuality or ethnic background does not make them any less patriotic for this country than a card holding BNP member. Migrant workers and Immigrants to this country have helped this country tremendously. And as for a persons sexuality, well thats really should be of no concern to anyone, unless they want to get "jiggy" with the individual themselves, then it becomes a private matter and not a public one. Regardless of sexuallity or ethnicity, if we all listened to Gloria Gaynors "I am what I am", maybe we could all co-exist in this wonderful country more peacefully.

[keyvan]

Yes sir, I hear what you say! I'm now indoctrinated to vote for BNP. By the way, is this your real name? Just curious.

[keyvan]

Sorry livk. I didn't see your post when I replied. That question is addressed to Mr. Tamzarian.

[nantyboy]

Does anyone know of a law in this country that prevents them from doing so?

[livk]

I am not sure if there is a law which would stop them from publishing them, but I think there is one which could stop them from publicly trying to sell their paper with them in. I would hope that all those who protested at the BBC for airing the Jerry Springer Opera because they believed it was blasphemous, would condemn the publication of these pictures in this country, as there publication would serve no purpose other than inflame religious tensions. Muslims are entitled to their faith, and these cartoons of Mohammed cause great offence to many people.

[Ward-Minter]

How strange. It is fair to say that I am slightly more right wing than Hitler but I don't think I could ever vote BNP. Yes I admit I do agree with a vast majority of their views but some are just incomprehensible. And that Nick Griffin guy is Welsh.

I think I will stick with the Tories in the wild hope that Baroness Thatcher will return.

[bernardo]

Mr Tamzarian - I'm curious - what could I possibly see, or what could you show me, to persuade me to vote for the BNP? I regularly visit the BNP website, I have read the BNP manifesto from the 2005 and 1997 general elections, I have ethnic minority neighbours, I went to the Unite Against Fascism conference last week, and I am openly gay. What more persuasion could I possibly need to vote for a bunch of fascists, racists, thugs, criminals, and incompetent narrow-minded islamophobic homophobic weirdos?

[Ward-Minter]

bernado, before 9/11 or even the London Bombings did the term "islamaphobic" exist?

For your information one of the reasons I would never vote BNP is their stance on gays. They are, lets say, not really coherent with the 21st century.

[mr_pointment]

wasn,t captain peacock in "are you being served"rumbled to only being a corporal? arf.

[Mr.Tamzarian]

These are typical responses from people who believe everything they read in the papers and hear on the radio.

I am not interested in religion. I don't see what religion has go to do with anything. Nobody has to be religious. It's a choice. If you want to be religious, that's up to you. But don't start pontificating and moaning that people don't respect your religion. You made the choice about religion against the culture and background of the country you live in. I resent the fact that people who came from another country, with that countrys' religion, should be able to march in the capital of THIS country advocating violence to anyone who made jibes, insults or bad comments about their religion.

Why should immigrants be allowed into this country, then start dictating that they don't get a voice or are being treated like second class citizens?

Would you go into someones house and tell them to change everything because you didn't like it?

If you don't like the way we do things in this country, you know how to get out. The BNP will be very helpful to you in this respect.

[livk]

Tamza, the vast majority of Immigrants who come to this country are law abiding individuals, who have the right to practice whatever religion they want to. I don't hear them dictating anything, they may ask for the same rights as those a lot of us take for granted, and we all have the right to protest peacefully.

With regard to religion, this country is a christian country and a lot of our history is religiously based. Its only now that we are a "free" country that we have the right to choose our own religion.

[bernardo]

Ward-Minter - yes, the word "islamophobic" has existed for many years.

Mr Tamzarian -

I am not interested in religion.

Nor me. I am an atheist and a secularist.

I don't see what religion has go to do with anything.

It is part of some people's culture.

I resent the fact that people who came from another country, with that countrys' religion, should be able to march in the capital of THIS country advocating violence to anyone who made jibes, insults or bad comments about their religion.

They are not "allowed to". The placards the other week which called for violence and murder were illegal.

Why should immigrants be allowed into this country,

For the benefit to the economy - filling labour shortages, skills shortages, and cheaply.

then start dictating that they don't get a voice or are being treated like second class citizens?

If they are being ill-treated or exploited, then of course they have the right to complain.

Would you go into someone's house and tell them to change everything because you didn't like it?

No.

If you don't like the way we do things in this country, you know how to get out. The BNP will be very helpful to you in this respect.

I notice you haven't answered my question.

[Englishbird]

Mr Tamzarian, are you aware that your argument holds some credence, some of your, and the BNP's, points are valid and some warrant further debate and discussion ....... until you use the word faggot.

And therein lies the problem. It's not the politics of the BNP that make them so heinous, it's the bigotry, xenophobia and hatred of its members.

[Mr.Tamzarian]

If I thought that was a serious question Bernardo, I might consider answering it.

You've got a lot going for you, haven't you?

[livk]

does BNP actually stand for Bigots Neanderthals Party? 2006 and the term faggots are being used? Repatriation is being offered? I thought for a minute I had stepped back in time to the early 1970's.

[NikkiB]

Everyone is entitled to have a Faith, but no-one should be protected from having that Faith questioned by others. That is the beauty of living in a democracy. Anyone who does not subscribe to the idea of democracy does not deserve to live here and enjoy it's fruits.