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Wurzel johnson, wants to ride his bike into Downing Street as the new prime minister ,and save the con party, and save the country , when cameron is defeated in the next election... should he not have to become an MP first????
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Boris became London's mayor when fewer than four out of ten eligible voters bothered to turn up. If the election on that day had been held on the same basis as he wants union elections to happen...ie over 50% of the electorate must vote...he clearly would not have got the position! Nor would anyone else, of course, but it's worth noting, I think.
almost three million turned out, at least according to this
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ems...If you were to tell everybody that plotted against Thatcher to stand in a line, you would have an awful long line indeed. Heseltine was only one amongst many. The Party realised that Thatcher had became a liability to their tenancy of Number Ten and she needed to go. In the opinion of many, John Major was the wrong choice and this proved to be true as he reduced a reasonable Tory majority gained by Thatcher in 1987 to a much smaller number in 1992, thus allowing Blair to win in 1997 with the greatest landslide since 1945.
It could be argued that Heseltine might have saved the day a little better, although I would agree that it is not absolutely certain. But the Tory administration had really run out of steam by 1997 and the election result was inevitable.
I am not a natural Tory supporter by I have always felt somewhat sorry for Major. He was and is basically a nice man, that was promoted way above his abilities. He would have been a great next door neighbour, who could be relied upon to water your garden for you when you were on your hols. He would have gladly lent you every attachment that you needed for your Black and Decker. He would make a marvellous and natural Scout Leader, and a better man to coach the local youngsters at cricket would have been hard to find. But as the highest manager in Britain, he was hopeless.
It could be argued that Heseltine might have saved the day a little better, although I would agree that it is not absolutely certain. But the Tory administration had really run out of steam by 1997 and the election result was inevitable.
I am not a natural Tory supporter by I have always felt somewhat sorry for Major. He was and is basically a nice man, that was promoted way above his abilities. He would have been a great next door neighbour, who could be relied upon to water your garden for you when you were on your hols. He would have gladly lent you every attachment that you needed for your Black and Decker. He would make a marvellous and natural Scout Leader, and a better man to coach the local youngsters at cricket would have been hard to find. But as the highest manager in Britain, he was hopeless.
Should Boris suddenly be made PM it will not give the Tories any more seats.
He would have two choices:
1/ He could continue with the coalition agreement - no change in policies
2/ He could abandon the coalition and attempt to govern a minority administration and probably fail to get any new legislation through parliament
Doesn't sound too appealing does it?
A lot of the right wingers clamouring for Boris to come and save them are forgetting that they are only able to govern effectively thanks to the Lib Dems
He would have two choices:
1/ He could continue with the coalition agreement - no change in policies
2/ He could abandon the coalition and attempt to govern a minority administration and probably fail to get any new legislation through parliament
Doesn't sound too appealing does it?
A lot of the right wingers clamouring for Boris to come and save them are forgetting that they are only able to govern effectively thanks to the Lib Dems
The far right of the Tory Party are panicking jake. They realise that they face defeat in 2015. The last time they were defeated in a General Election was 1997 and they tore themselves apart for years, before finally winning again.
They will try anything to avoid losing to Labour again. The Tories view themselves as the natural Party to rule in Britain, in much the same way as the Church of England see themselves are the arbiters of everything that good and moral, despite being a minority interest. Labour are used to sitting on the opposition benches but it doesn't come easy to the Old Etonians. Boris may be their only chance. What can they lose at this stage of the race ?
They will try anything to avoid losing to Labour again. The Tories view themselves as the natural Party to rule in Britain, in much the same way as the Church of England see themselves are the arbiters of everything that good and moral, despite being a minority interest. Labour are used to sitting on the opposition benches but it doesn't come easy to the Old Etonians. Boris may be their only chance. What can they lose at this stage of the race ?
I would be highly suspicious of any politician who has risen in the public concience through appearences on a spoof new quiz on the BBC.
I would be even more suspicious of any politician who hides what is clearly a razor-sharp intellect (just read any of his his journalism) behind a created image of a buffoon.
Either of those would stop me voting for Boris were i a Conservative, which I am not - but both together would make me quite worried.
I would be even more suspicious of any politician who hides what is clearly a razor-sharp intellect (just read any of his his journalism) behind a created image of a buffoon.
Either of those would stop me voting for Boris were i a Conservative, which I am not - but both together would make me quite worried.
Andy...you have it right there, but that's politicians for you. I personally wouldn't vote Tory if they dug up Mother Teresa and put a blue rosette on her, but as some one once said, all publicity is good publicity. Boris knows that the quickest was to get noticed is to appear on the telly,
Well, that and not combing his hair of course. But they do say that blondes have more fun you know !
Well, that and not combing his hair of course. But they do say that blondes have more fun you know !
Ludwig, perhaps you're unaware of it but, if only one candidate puts his hat in the ring in most British electoral situations, HE'S the selection. Gordon Brown stood for leader of the Labour Party and no on else did. Consequently, he was in effect "elected" by the party and became Prime Minister on the strength of that. He would have remained such had they gained a majority in 2010. However, they failed to gain a majority and he resigned from the party leader's post.
Of course, Cameron failed to win a majority then, too, so there's really no difference between them in the "Elected Stakes". In other words, no one voted for him to be Prime Minister either. Gordon was there courtesy of his party, but Davy-Boy is in No 10 courtesy solely of Nickie!
Of course, Cameron failed to win a majority then, too, so there's really no difference between them in the "Elected Stakes". In other words, no one voted for him to be Prime Minister either. Gordon was there courtesy of his party, but Davy-Boy is in No 10 courtesy solely of Nickie!
On a London radio station last night an Asian gentleman, who apparently had been a staunch Labour supporter, but had now turned Tory after Labour's disastrous 13 years in office, said what this country needs is for Boris to become Prime Minster and then Britain would have the 'Great' put back into Britain.
There is increasing disquiet among Tory ranks over Boris and his undermining of the current leadership.
His popularity is based on winning a 2nd term as London Mayor, which although comprehensive wasn't nearly a trouncing as the press would have you belive, and let us not forget who he beat. If Labour had but up a different candidate, Boris may not even have been Mayor.
I voted for Boris as the idea of Ken Livingstone killing London was abhorent, not sur i'd vote Boris again.
His popularity is based on winning a 2nd term as London Mayor, which although comprehensive wasn't nearly a trouncing as the press would have you belive, and let us not forget who he beat. If Labour had but up a different candidate, Boris may not even have been Mayor.
I voted for Boris as the idea of Ken Livingstone killing London was abhorent, not sur i'd vote Boris again.
Ludwig, not only did you know you'd get a bite, you knew exactly what the bite was going to be...at least you should have done, given that we've had this mini-debate of ours about half a dozen times, it seems.
Keep the bait coming and I'll keep replying in the expected vein! You see, it gives me the opportunity to remind anyone who reads our ongoing little narrative that (a) Cameron isn't an "elected Prime Minister" and (b) Bojo got elected on a 38% turnout.
Keep the bait coming and I'll keep replying in the expected vein! You see, it gives me the opportunity to remind anyone who reads our ongoing little narrative that (a) Cameron isn't an "elected Prime Minister" and (b) Bojo got elected on a 38% turnout.
Yes, NJ, I think we all know that. The reason this arose originally between Ludwig and myself was the fact that - a few years ago - Tories on AB and in the country/press at large constantly whined on about how Gordon Brown was (quote) "an unelected Prime Minister". You must remember.
When the relevant date arrived recently, I pointed out here that Cameron had now been an "unelected Prime Minister" for longer than Brown had been...ie his party had not received an overall majority from the electorate, yet he was still in No 10.
Having said how the system works, you must also be aware that there are multitudes of people who DO vote for the local representative of the party whose leader they WANT to be Prime Minister. Many of those would doubtless be put to it even to name or recognise their particular candidate in the relevant constituency! If they wanted Maggie and - the Lord knows why - they did, they voted for Jim Bloggs or Sylvia Stevens or Uncle Tom Cobley or whoever the Tory candidate was, knowing that their success would achieve what they wanted. It is, therefore, not totally true to say Prime Ministers are not elected, given that they often are "by proxy", as I've just explained.
I'll leave it there.
When the relevant date arrived recently, I pointed out here that Cameron had now been an "unelected Prime Minister" for longer than Brown had been...ie his party had not received an overall majority from the electorate, yet he was still in No 10.
Having said how the system works, you must also be aware that there are multitudes of people who DO vote for the local representative of the party whose leader they WANT to be Prime Minister. Many of those would doubtless be put to it even to name or recognise their particular candidate in the relevant constituency! If they wanted Maggie and - the Lord knows why - they did, they voted for Jim Bloggs or Sylvia Stevens or Uncle Tom Cobley or whoever the Tory candidate was, knowing that their success would achieve what they wanted. It is, therefore, not totally true to say Prime Ministers are not elected, given that they often are "by proxy", as I've just explained.
I'll leave it there.
I wonder how many people in Britain know who is the current Prime Minister...probably near 100% it is hoped. But how many people know the name of their local MP ?
People do vote for personalities, as well as political parties. Love him or hate him, Boris is easily one of the most recognisable men in Britain today.
People do vote for personalities, as well as political parties. Love him or hate him, Boris is easily one of the most recognisable men in Britain today.
