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anotheoldgit | 13:34 Tue 28th May 2013 | News
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/27/york-mosque-protest-tea-biscuits

/// Leanne Staven, who had come for the protest, said that she had not come to the mosque to cause trouble but because "We need a voice". "I think white British who have any concerns feel we can't speak freely," she said. ///

This I agree with, "we need a voice" and who else is there for us but the EDL, whether you agree with their politics or how they go about things?

Nice to see some Muslims are prepared to speak out at last against their radical fellow Muslims.

/// Ismail Miah, president of York mosque, added: "Under the banner of Islam there are very different politics: democratic politics, the far right, left, central, all over. You can't target a whole community for what one or two people have done. ///

But I am afraid Mr Miah there are many more than just two, who have carried out Murders, Bombings and other acts of Terrorism on our streets, so unfortunately as is always the case, the majority must suffer for the acts of the minority.
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em10

Don't know about you, but I see integration all over the place. It might be because I work in a multinational country and people tend to make friends with people they work with?

Personally in the past month I've been to an Indian wedding, a synagogue a barbecue hosted by a Muslim family and have taken five straight Hindus to a gay pride event.

I suppose it's who you know...
i have worked with, socialised with many nationalities, so have many, and the young more so i expect, but you can't get away from the fact that we have some in our communities that don't like each other, and perhaps never will. You can't make them, no matter how much legislation or rhetoric you chuck at them, this applies right across the board.
em10

"but you can't get away from the fact that we have some in our communities that don't like each other"

Absolutely. It would be a racial utopia for that to happen.

It reminds me of something a friend of mine once put forward - if you could raise ten babies from different nationalities on a remote desert island with no access to any global media...would they grow up without any racism?

Impossible to find out, but it's always made me wonder...
some of my black friends didn't like or hated Asians, no reason for it, or at least none i could understand. in an ideal world, which this isn't, we would all get along, i really can't see that happening ever
I agree em, if only! I have some Asian friends and they have a great dislike of black people, I have never known why and I don't think they know themselves...so as I've always said, it isn't always white people who are racist or suchlike.
i have always known that there is prejudice on all sides, you may not know the true reason but it is there. black prejudice on other black people because of a slightly lighter skin, i remember that from friends, potty, but there you go
"..so as I've always said, it isn't always white people who are racist or suchlike."

True, but I'm sure in the minefield of what is deemed acceptable by the powers that be it'll racist for a white person to point it out.
"Stacked" and "against" come to mind douglas? (smile)

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