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It Would Seem That Cameron's Stance On Gay Marriages Has Done Him No Favours.

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anotheoldgit | 13:20 Mon 25th Feb 2013 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283926/Lord-Ashcroft-Drops-support-Tories-David-Camerons-gay-marriage-obsession.html

Even the Labour party chose not to support him over this matter, but instead took the opportunity to obtain further political points.

/// But Michael Dugher, Labour’s vice chairman, said his withdrawal of financial support was ‘a damning vote of no confidence’ in the Prime Minister. ///



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I don't think em is reading the explanatory posts, she seems confused between research/opinion polls and elections/referenda
i am reading it, please don't make it out to be i don't understand, but when i see headlines or words like majority, or indeed most, then i just wonder how unless pollsters for a government department take a much wider poll, how they can say majority, most agree with x - if they don't ask me, or family, or friends or any one i know, then our voices haven't been heard.
If in this instance the whole of the country had been asked, and we know that is impossible, then one cannot unequivocally say that everyone agrees.
i have to leave this for now, as things to do, like eat, so you carry on..
em10

Being gay and having a large number of gay friends and reading the gay press and being involved in support groups may not make me an expert, but it make me pretty well informed. More so than the average straight person.

It's the same as someone who reads Auto Express, restores classic cars and watches Top Gear every week - they will better informed about cars than a non-driver.

Of course, the non-driver will have opinions, but I would give credence to the 'petrol head' on matters automotive.

My point is - if someone is going to say "gay people don't want marriage equality", you need to back that up because that isn't factually accurate. its opinion, dressed up as fact.
@Em Not trying to offend you. Opinion polls are a statistical snapshot of social attitudes. Analysis has shown that if you select the right sample size or randomly selected contributors, the results of that survey will mirror the sentiment of the country as a whole quite closely.

Obviously one should not attempt to run a country by opinion poll, but provided they are carried out correctly, they can give a good feel for social opinion.

Your personal feelings on the issue will have been reflected by individuals who have a similar opinion to you within the representative sample.

One always has to be cautious when digesting the results of an opinion poll, however. One should always question the sample size, and the contributor selection criteria. One should also know how the question or questions was framed- Were the questions framed in such a way as to lead the respondents, for example.

But these problems are well understood, and that it why large scale surveys to assess public opinion on national issues are carried out by the same few companies - IPSOS MORI, Gallup, etc....
Being married usually means making a commitment. I wonder if a survey has ever been done about gay partners splitting up compared with hetrosexual couples? You would think the number would be much higher as not many will have biological children to keep the marriage going.
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Data from the Office of National Statistics shows that after five years, 5.5 per cent of marriages had ended in divorce and 2.5 per cent of civil partnerships had been dissolved.

The ONS report says: “Early figures suggest that marriages are more likely to end in divorce than civil partnerships are to end in dissolution.”

From http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/09/23/gay-civil-partners-less-likely-to-split-up-than-straight-married-couples/
And the idea that couples stay together because of the children has far less currency than formerly. Years ago,you'd find couples who divorced, having lived a lie under the same roof for years, as soon as the children reached 18. They'd stayed together "for the sake of the children". Now the thinking is for a break as soon as the marriage is held by the couple to be irreparable

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