Are we "shackled to a corpse"?

[KerrAvon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../uk-politics-20085437
If we are we do have the key to the shackles, can we unlock ourselves?

[jno]

Britain's applications were rejected because Britain wanted to keep on trading on preferential terms with her former Empire. As I said, half-hearted.

[emmie]

interesting

http://www.democracym....co.uk/dyk_myths.html

[Brenden]

What happened to the USSR and Yugoslavian bloc countries jno - civil wars - still going on to this day when they collapsed. Can you see this happening to the EU? Bloc countries have never worked and never will, people have a funny habit of wanting their own national identity.

[emmie]

everything seems to indicate it was largely De Gaulle's hubris for our being excluded early on, it matters not now, he is long dead, but the situation is that we are saddled with far more than we get out, and it's time someone took the bull by the horns, Cameron won't do it however.

[emmie]

Brenden, exactly, when nations are cobbled together, told they must all play nicely, then something strange happens, they rediscover their national identity and then the wars start. Time to step out of this morass and find our way back to some sanity.

[Brenden]

Graham, I believe it is in the Lisbon treaty that any nation leaving the union would still be allowed free trade rights - I suppose they could scupper that if it were to happen - then we could see what sort of a dictatorship it has become -as would all the surviving members.

[emmie]

By and large it is Germany that holds the reins, and it's Germany that gains most out of it. Watch this space for more riots across other parts of Europe, not least Greece.

[Brenden]

Especially when this new legislation (brussels controling all the banks and setting all budgets) is really understood - they are so desperate to control our financial system - please do not tell me this is not dictatorship.

[tonyav]

We won the war, but the Krouts are still pulling the strings !

[emmie]

Tony that would be Krauts, not a term i would honestly use.
But the scenario of financial control across the nations will not go well with the London financial centre, not well at all.

[tonyav]

Sorry about the spelling em, but you know what I mean.

[emmie]

tony, of course...

[Brenden]

.Hope this copies - quite interesting. Media URL: http://planet.infowars.com/economics/latest-interview-nigel-farage-thursday-october-25-2012
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[emmie]

: http://planet.infowar...rsday-october-25-2012
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[Brenden]

Thanks em, watched the programme live - seems like Belgium are now thinking the same way as UKIP.

[Brenden]

I think there was a video by her husband James quite a few years ago called "Sleepwalking in Europe" - how right he was.