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Atheism and Your Health.
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Is Atheism detrimental to your health and general wellbeing?
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Khandro, I too hope the editor is reading your post. Yet another example of the religious and their apologists attacking the messenger rather than the message. Why should jom defend his place in this room – or in any other room of AnswerBank? Yes, the topic here is Religion and Spirituality – and that’s what he’s discussing. If his arguments do not meet with your approval, perhaps you should consider honing your own in order to meet the challenge a little more ably - and rather less spitefully.
@khandro - Your last post sounded suspiciously like special pleading on behalf of religion to me. Why should religion and spirituality get special protection from criticism? Why are you, like the various organised religions, so keen to stifle free speech?
Atheism is to R&S what the number zero is to mathematics.The people who contribute here on a regular basis are at least as interested in religion and spirituality as you - and perhaps more importantly, the effects, positive and negative (but mostly negative, in my opinion) such beliefs have on society as a whole.
You can have as many positive discourses as you like Khandro. Only when you make controversial posts about atheism, or make claims that I feel are without substance do I contribute.
Despite your complaints that these "serious spiritual discussions" you are keen to have are being drowned out by us pesky atheists, it is interesting to note that your last 3-5 most recent posts in this section have all, directly or indirectly, been attacks on atheism. Having read the flavour of the threads that you start, and various of your posts, it is difficult not to conclude that you have a strong antipathy toward atheists - As someone else noted, a chip on your shoulder.
If you want to engage in discussion with co-religionists about 14th century mysticism or whatever it is you think worthy of serious discussion, put up a post, see what sort of response you get. But if your post is seen as a dig at atheism, or you make unwarranted claims about the special relationship with the universe that those of faith enjoy over those poor, benighted non believers, expect such a post to be rebutted.
You shouldn't complain at the explosion when you light the fuse..........
Atheism is to R&S what the number zero is to mathematics.The people who contribute here on a regular basis are at least as interested in religion and spirituality as you - and perhaps more importantly, the effects, positive and negative (but mostly negative, in my opinion) such beliefs have on society as a whole.
You can have as many positive discourses as you like Khandro. Only when you make controversial posts about atheism, or make claims that I feel are without substance do I contribute.
Despite your complaints that these "serious spiritual discussions" you are keen to have are being drowned out by us pesky atheists, it is interesting to note that your last 3-5 most recent posts in this section have all, directly or indirectly, been attacks on atheism. Having read the flavour of the threads that you start, and various of your posts, it is difficult not to conclude that you have a strong antipathy toward atheists - As someone else noted, a chip on your shoulder.
If you want to engage in discussion with co-religionists about 14th century mysticism or whatever it is you think worthy of serious discussion, put up a post, see what sort of response you get. But if your post is seen as a dig at atheism, or you make unwarranted claims about the special relationship with the universe that those of faith enjoy over those poor, benighted non believers, expect such a post to be rebutted.
You shouldn't complain at the explosion when you light the fuse..........
@ Khandro. Your usual weasel words. I think your are living in denial.
"LG; If asking this question, which is about the effect of prayer and meditation on health, under the heading of Religion & Spirituality, is to "light the fuse" to an explosion, then there must be some highly volatile people in the audience."
So then, if what you wanted to know was the potential positive effects of prayer and meditation on health, why did you phrase it like this?
"Is Atheism detrimental to your health and general wellbeing?"
That was a calculating post Khandro. Its no use trying to play the innocent.It was part and parcel of the chip on your shoulder that you have about atheists and atheism. Care to comment on why it is that all of your most recent posts in this section have been, directly or indirectly, attacks on atheism?
And then when you get responses, robust defences, pointing out the flaws and logical inconsistencies in your arguments, most especially when you attempt to use science to justify your position, you whinge that religion and spirituality should be ring fenced - protected from criticism.
"LG; If asking this question, which is about the effect of prayer and meditation on health, under the heading of Religion & Spirituality, is to "light the fuse" to an explosion, then there must be some highly volatile people in the audience."
So then, if what you wanted to know was the potential positive effects of prayer and meditation on health, why did you phrase it like this?
"Is Atheism detrimental to your health and general wellbeing?"
That was a calculating post Khandro. Its no use trying to play the innocent.It was part and parcel of the chip on your shoulder that you have about atheists and atheism. Care to comment on why it is that all of your most recent posts in this section have been, directly or indirectly, attacks on atheism?
And then when you get responses, robust defences, pointing out the flaws and logical inconsistencies in your arguments, most especially when you attempt to use science to justify your position, you whinge that religion and spirituality should be ring fenced - protected from criticism.
A few ramblings on your question, Khandro.
Atheism damage my health? Probably not, but reading A Very Short Introduction to Nietzsche might. Extreme brevity (which is most certainly not one of its virtues) would improve this work, but, nonetheless, for followers of Pseuds’ Corner there’s a rich vein of precious ore. I haven’t found any in Nietzsche himself so far, only in the author and his sources. Here’s one brilliant example quoted from Kundera (Who he? Ed): “In the sunlight of dissolution, everything is illuminated by the aura of nostalgia, even the guillotine”. You couldn’t make that up, could you?
Do you think there’s an irony in the fact (if we accept your proposition – though I, of course don’t) that those who believe we are walking through a vale of tears in preparation for an eternity of bliss are actually going to be detained here longer than those who think the journey stops at the end of the valley? You might think they’d be in a hurry to move on rather than linger, mightn’t you?
Oh, and to repeat a question asked several times before: why do insist on conflating religion and spirituality? When I attacked the morality of some religions in a previous post you were very quick to separate the rational people with a spiritual dimension (i.e. Khandro) from the superstitious masses who grovel in prayer.
Another question: what do you think would contribute more to health and happiness in India, Mother Theresa (RIP) with her “spirituality”, or contraception without it?
Atheism damage my health? Probably not, but reading A Very Short Introduction to Nietzsche might. Extreme brevity (which is most certainly not one of its virtues) would improve this work, but, nonetheless, for followers of Pseuds’ Corner there’s a rich vein of precious ore. I haven’t found any in Nietzsche himself so far, only in the author and his sources. Here’s one brilliant example quoted from Kundera (Who he? Ed): “In the sunlight of dissolution, everything is illuminated by the aura of nostalgia, even the guillotine”. You couldn’t make that up, could you?
Do you think there’s an irony in the fact (if we accept your proposition – though I, of course don’t) that those who believe we are walking through a vale of tears in preparation for an eternity of bliss are actually going to be detained here longer than those who think the journey stops at the end of the valley? You might think they’d be in a hurry to move on rather than linger, mightn’t you?
Oh, and to repeat a question asked several times before: why do insist on conflating religion and spirituality? When I attacked the morality of some religions in a previous post you were very quick to separate the rational people with a spiritual dimension (i.e. Khandro) from the superstitious masses who grovel in prayer.
Another question: what do you think would contribute more to health and happiness in India, Mother Theresa (RIP) with her “spirituality”, or contraception without it?
v_e; A few rambling indeed! You haven't been at the gin bottle again have you :-) 1. Reading secondary literature isn't always the best place to find precious ore, old Spanish proverb; "Talking about bullfighting is not the same as being in the bullring." I'm glad you are getting something out of M. Tanner at least. ". 2. Who is it that doesn't know who Milan Kundera is, you, or Ed. or both? (try Google for an avalanche). The quote, which is an abstraction of an abstraction, is 'poetic' as you well know, - though it brought a smile. 3. Personally I'm not walking through a vale of tears as I have a bike. I'm not in any rush to die, but I don't want an extra three years in a geriatric ward so, any time will do. 4. The link between religion and spirituality? it may have skipped you notice, but that is the title of this site. 5. Regarding Mother Theresa and contraception (avoiding obvious coarseness here) I'll just say I'll take the latter anytime.
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