public bar

[angieb63]

where do i stand when the pub i was workin in full time gets closed down and i am left without a job

[China Doll]

Erm... in the doll queue?

Seriously, if the bar closes down then it looks like you'll have to look for an alternative job. If it hasn't but you believe it's going to then I would be looking for another job now rather than wait for the proverbial to meet the fan.

[angieb63]

yes i do understand that but i was meaning legally

[ChocolatChip]

Why has it closed? Have the owner gone bankrupt?

[boxtops]

If you have a contract of employment, then if the job is no longer there, and you have been there more than a year, you should be made redundant and be eligible for redundancy pay. What does your contract say? Has it shut already? You need to establish whether you will get redundancy pay before you start looking for another job.

[China Doll]

In what sense? Have you been given some sort of promise of financial aid if the place goes bust? Has it closed down and are you owed money from the work you have done? Are they asking you to work without pay? Is it a franchise and you're looking for them to move you to a different bar to work there?

I think you'd need to provide a bit more info to get the answers you're looking for.

[factor-fiction]

To give me an idea on potential redundancy pay, please can you tell us:
- how long you have worked there
- how many hours a week you work

[angieb63]

hi mark ive been there for about 5 year my boss was only leasing the pub it has closed cos he got into financial difficulty (ran up debts) n no he has not got another job to offer me .just got told yesterday that i am now unemployed

[angieb63]

i work 40 hours per week well did work that

[boxtops]

In which case, IMO, you are redundant and entitled to redundancy pay - I don't know how you stand if the owner is broke, though.

[angieb63]

thanks very much i must look into this cos ive not got a clue

[boxtops]

Who's mark?

[factor-fiction]

This site may answer all your questions
http://www.direct.gov...edundancy/DG_10029836

[angieb63]

cheers mark just goin to have a look

[China Doll]

I seem to recall something about if a business goes bankrupt you have to apply to the creditors if money is owed... I'm not sure how true that is so perhaps look that up too. I'm just thinking about if he's in financial difficulties, and you are entitled to something, I guess it could be hard to claim the money back depending on the situation :-/

[angieb63]

lol sorry just read that it says mark as best answer
im only gettin used to this

[China Doll]

Ha! I was wondering who Mark was as well.. had to look at the name label in my knickers and everything...

[boxtops]

LOL - angie, that is funny, easily done! ;-)

seriously though, look at factor's link, and do come and ask again - let us know how you get on.

[Maydup]

I have experience via a friend who was in the same position as you.

He went to the Citizens Advice Bureau and they acted on his behalf to claim redundancy money for him as a creditor. The assets were sold and even if there arn't many there will be some such as stock and fixtures and fitting. Out of this the crditors were paid a percentage of what was due.

It was much but it was the principle. go tomorrow to the CAB taking any employment documents you have with you. Include payslips or bank statements to show you have been paid regularly and anything else you ahve in writing from the pub.

I hope you get something, and good luck.

[Maydup]

^^ Sorry shocking typing tonight.

It should read that he didn't get much but it was the principle.

[bobthefisherman]

Can you find out if your boss was a member of the British Institute of Inkeeping (BIIAB)...?
They can give advice and support for any legal situations....

It looks like he/she was being charged over the top rates and barrelage by the brewery, and subsequently got into debt - it happens all too often when a lease is involved, that's one of the reasons why so many pubs are closing....


The chances are that your boss will not have the means to provide redundancy pay ( depending on if you had a contract with them or not), but the next leaseholder of the business may continue to employ you (depending on the brewery's terms)....

Best thing to do is ask your boss for a written termination, and follow the previous advice given by factor30 and Maidup.....

It's a very grey area... good luck......