Can someone explain to me...

[R1Geezer]

why scum like this are on the streets?
http://www.dailymail....history-violence.html
Bl00dy oooman rites again!

[R1Geezer]

Obviously the lefties here have no comment on the actual question and seem to be preoccupied with what aog uses for links! I can only assume hey agree entirey but are too embarrassed to own up! Come on Gromit and co, don't be shy!

[anotheoldgit]

Agree it is time AB included a section called Anti AOG comments, and since the majority of posters on AB are left wing, it would reduce the length of question's answers, thus saving space on the news section.

[DTCwordfan]

Well actually you two extreme right wingers UKP or further right? some of us here are right-wing centrist in our politics and your views go way OTT. I am a great supporter of the Chirs Patten style of politics especially pertaining to economics. Right wing but tinged with humanity and this is what this case is about here. Not necessarily HR so.

We could go the other extreme and ask for an AOG thread so we know where you are and thereby avoid some of the loon ideas, extreme independence and notions that kick around here, not least the non-acceptance of a pluralistic society that pervades many of your threads - and what OBama said was one of the enduring strengths of the United Kingdom

[Gromit]

I asked why you use tinyurls. That is not anti AOG. I asked to save you time doing something for no reason. AB automatically shortens links, there is no clevetness involved. Instead of generating a tinyurl, simply copy and paste the original and the link will display shortened.

Just thought, perhaps you do it to disguise Daily Mail links.

[ummmm]

How do you do a tinyurl?

[Gromit]

http://tinyurl.com/

You go to tinyurl.com which presumably you have booked marked, then copy and paste the url into the box provided. That genetates a shortened version which you can then copy and paste into your answer.

Only AB shortens it anyway so the whole exercise is a pointless waste of time.

[Kromovaracun]

AB didn't used to shorten URLs, so he might just be doing out of habit.

But this is all irrelevant...

[anotheoldgit]

In fact I have recently posted the original links and they have both come out in their normal length Gromit.

/// Just thought, perhaps you do it to disguise Daily Mail links.///

What a devious mind you must have Gromit, I make no excuses or wish to disguise the source of my posts.

Some of you would wish to see the Daily Mail banned, but then hypocritically go on and post from the DM site when they happen to print a news story that suits their own particular agenda.

[anotheoldgit]

Apology Gromit, they did in fact turn up in the shortened version when I revisited the question.

So they must change after one has posted the link.

Why don't they inform us of these additions to AB?

[ummmm]

Thanks Gromit.

[birdie1971]

Depending which report you read, either Mr Bishop's Human Rights would be impinged upon or that of his children.

For instance, if you read the BBC article below, it specifically states that he was freed because, “... He argued the judgement breached his human rights and the Court of Appeal agreed...”. So the courts ruled that it was his rights that were being violated and not that of his children.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...tinghamshire-13573830


Certain people on this website seem to think that because his children would suffer if he was put behind bars, that is sufficient reason to keep him out of prison. I personally think that is utter nonsense and the Court of Appeal should be ashamed. If certain people on here think that makes me right-wing then so be it.

Simply because one's family may 'suffer' if a criminal parent is locked up is no reason to keep that criminal out of prison. That line of reasoning leads you down a very dangerous path indeed. Where do you stop? If burglary isn't a sufficiently serious offence to warrant a custodial sentence then what is?

Seriously, where do we draw the line on this? How serious a crime does one have to commit in order to be put behind bars if you have children?

[DaisyNonna]

What message is tis sending to the children? It is OK to break the law if you have procreated.

[birdie1971]

^^^ Exactly.

[Teddy_boy]

Is it because hes white?

[birdie1971]

^^^ Your point being...?

[Teddy_boy]

Theres no point.I simply asked a question.

[birdie1971]

You're implying that his ethnicity has some bearing on his sentence, are you not?

[DaisyNonna]

He could be purple with pop box orange spots and still have broken the law.

[Teddy_boy]

Im implying nothing.Ypu are the one implyimng. I am the one asking the question.
However the preportion of blacks in jail in the uk is hugelydisproportionate to that of whites , taking i nto consideration their percentage of the overall population.
" At 16% of all those in jail, the number of black prisoners is hugely disproportionate to the general population, where African and Caribbean people make up just 2% of the total."
http://www.guardian.c...sonsandprobation.race

Again i ask ,is it because he is white?
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