Being Soaked By Water Companies
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Well done Spain....
http://news.sky.com/s...t_Anti-Cigarette_Laws
How long do you think it will be before this digusting habit is just a comedic note in history? What are the next steps the civilised world must make? Do smokers have an idea how badly they smell?
How long do you think it will be before this digusting habit is just a comedic note in history? What are the next steps the civilised world must make? Do smokers have an idea how badly they smell?
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<<Well said,naomi,I have never seen or heard of anyone killing somebody after they have been smoking.(Normal Cigs here I am talking about). >>
http://www.euroclinix...train-tracks-245.html
OK so this didn't actually result in death, but it could have done. clearly some smokers are passionate enough about their pastime to risk someone else's life to protect it.
http://www.euroclinix...train-tracks-245.html
OK so this didn't actually result in death, but it could have done. clearly some smokers are passionate enough about their pastime to risk someone else's life to protect it.
Well think case is rested-thnks for that link mushroom.
Some people like Naomi just like to try to push the boundaries of a debate but just sometimes its a lost cause and there is no aruement even with the people who smoke -what a duller that must be :)
No offence naomi -a little debate is what AB is about but just sometimes one has to concede they are p!ssing against the wind !! :)
Some people like Naomi just like to try to push the boundaries of a debate but just sometimes its a lost cause and there is no aruement even with the people who smoke -what a duller that must be :)
No offence naomi -a little debate is what AB is about but just sometimes one has to concede they are p!ssing against the wind !! :)
that might have just been down to which bar you were in, le chat. until today, the law that applied was that bars under 100m2 area had to decide whether to be a smoking or non smoking establishment, and this had to be prominently displayed. bars over 100m2 had to provide separate smoking and non smoking areas.
it seemed to me (when visiting my parents at Perello) to be an excellent compromise, allowing everybody a degree of choice.
it seemed to me (when visiting my parents at Perello) to be an excellent compromise, allowing everybody a degree of choice.
Naomi - banning smoking would not work - just as banning illegal drugs does not mean that we have no drug problem in this country. The only thing that they can do is make it more and more difficult for smokers - by taxing it, by making it antisocial, by saying where you can't smoke etc, which is what they are doing very effectively.
10 years ago, a normal meeting of 20 people would have seen at least half of them smoking. That has changed dramatically now and only 10-20% of people smoke (this is purely me experience and people I speak to - I don;t have time to research the actual facts, but I am pretty certain that the number of people smoking has dropped significantly).
10 years ago, a normal meeting of 20 people would have seen at least half of them smoking. That has changed dramatically now and only 10-20% of people smoke (this is purely me experience and people I speak to - I don;t have time to research the actual facts, but I am pretty certain that the number of people smoking has dropped significantly).
Agree with mushroom about the earlier rules in Spain, we are there regularly and our favourite bar chose to have a separate smoking room. Others could choose last year to be smoking or non-smoking zones - now presumably this is overridden.
I do have a vested interest, my OH smokes but as with many friends and family, has only done so out of doors for years. IMO he won't notice much change when we next go back, only that it's a rule rather than an option.
I do have a vested interest, my OH smokes but as with many friends and family, has only done so out of doors for years. IMO he won't notice much change when we next go back, only that it's a rule rather than an option.
Naomi, I can see your argument, however current figures are that 21% of the population smoke - it would be a brave decision to make criminals of 1 in 5
People. Much better to educate and / or tax people out of the habit.
Think about driving - there are many thousands of deaths from driving each year but the government tax us for this - do you think that this is hypocritical? They have educated people and taxed prophecies the road (far less drink / driving and speeding and even petrol guzzlers on the road now)
People. Much better to educate and / or tax people out of the habit.
Think about driving - there are many thousands of deaths from driving each year but the government tax us for this - do you think that this is hypocritical? They have educated people and taxed prophecies the road (far less drink / driving and speeding and even petrol guzzlers on the road now)
