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I am getting pigging fed up with this, are you?

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anotheoldgit | 18:16 Fri 19th Nov 2010 | News
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This is PC gone mad, if the little pig upsets the Muslims religious beliefs, then surely they should be given the opportunity to buy the toy farm without the pig, instead of removing it from everyone, I don't suppose they will make a discount for the missing pig.

But I see the ELC have now made a U turn, but all those non Muslims who bought it with the pig removed, will now have to make a return visit to pick the pig up.
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ELC have been particularly dense here. This reeks of 'advice given my management consultants. Did they even bother to canvass their customer base?

My guess is that if they bothered to speak to Muslim shoppers, the vast majority would say, "We'd buy the farm and chuck the pig out...it's not a big deal".

What they have done instead is handed the Daiky Mail yet another "it's PC gone mad story on a plate"

Silly ELC.
You are right sp, at the time this story first broke, Muslim people were astonished that the subject had even come up. Most are realists - pigs are not for them, but they know they are still out there! PC gone mad, just in case (again).
NazNomad:

“Halal meat means that the animal is firstly a permitted animal that can be consumed, and then slaughtered in accordance with the requirements of Islam. Then the meat becomes Halal (permissible) to consume, so no, you can't buy Halal pork”


We all know that the Jews and Muslims cannot eat pork. But let's talk specifically about the Halal/Kosher method of slaughter. Halal/Kosher means that the animal is slaughtered while it is fully alive. The animal is not stunned in order to render it unconscious. The animal is fully conscious when it's throat is cut.

It feels every cut.


Do you you think that cutting a fully conscious animal's throat is more or less humane than stunning the animal prior to inflicting the fatal wound? Bearing in mind that stunning renders the animal unconscious the therefore incapable of feeling anything whatsoever.

If someone was holding a knife to your throat and asked you if you'd prefer to be unconscious or conscious before beheading you, what would you choose? And why?
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I have spoken to someone (who has served two tours out in Afghanistan), over this matter, and he says before they went to Afghanistan they were instructed by a Muslim into their traditions also their religious beliefs.

Nowhere in the Koran does it say they can't eat the flesh of pigs, with hardly any pigs in the Middle East (there is only one in Kabul's zoo) the pig is unknown to them, they have never eaten pork, so they just don't want to try it, simple as that.
Wrong AOG, it is very specific in the Qu'ran, in two places:

The Quran 16:115

He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other than Allah has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits.

The Quran 2:173

He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless.

So (as has been said) it can be eaten if you are desperate, but not otherwise.
"God's Word" says nobody is to eat pork yet the Christians eat it to celebrate the birth of their saviour who would have been appalled.

Nowhere in the New Testament is the prohibition of eating pork repealed.

Fact is that Romans loved their food and really enjoyed pork. The Christians realised their new faith would get nowhere in the Roman Empire unless they shifted the dogma and somehow managed to ignore this dictate.

Of course any dogma they want to enforce is loudly acclaimed by evidence in the Bible until it suits them to move on.
Typical of this particular OP-er. Find any tatty old example of a non-story designed to inflame the ire of the average amoebically stupid Mail reader, then when it's quickly shown to be the irrelevant nonsense it is, either don't re-appear, or do re-appear but with some barely related other piece of distorted rubbish.

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