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anotheoldgit | 17:02 Mon 13th Jul 2009 | News
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/pol itics/defence/5817729/Afghanistan-David-Miliba nd-claims-war-to-make-us-safer-in-UK.html

In an interview with the British Forces Broadcasting Service at the weekend, the Prime Minister said it was a "patriotic duty" to deny al-Qaeda a fresh foothold in Afghanistan from which it could launch terrorist attacks on the streets of Britain.

He said: "I know that this has been a difficult summer - it is going to be a difficult summer."

No need to repeat yourself old man, I think we have got the message.

At last it is all becoming to make sense now.

al-Qaeda has had Saddam's weapons of mass destruction all along, and the reason we are in Afghanistan is to prevent al-Qaeda from launching them onto the streets of Britain.


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AOG I agree with what Gordon Brown has said.
Looking at it all from the point of view of our serving men on the front line in Afghanistan I think it must be sapping their confidence to constantly read and hear how their sacrifice is so pointless in the eyes of those back home. I truly believe that it is necessary to take our leaders to task about why we are fighting this war, but only when it is all over so that our lads can at least feel that they are supported by the general population back home.
Milliband didn't literally mean to launch from Afghanistan onto the streets of Britain.

He means we should deny them a base and safe haven from which to plan and instigate its operations.

I am not convinced. If we do removed al qaeda/taleban from Afghanistan, they will not simply disappear, they will adapt. All the terrorists attacks on Britain occurred after we had gone to war. By Milliband's reckoning it should have prevented the likelihood of us coming under attack, instead, it clearly defines us as their No.2 enemy and increases the threat of attack.

Even the Russians got out after ten years, I fear that will be there for twenty, thirty years. I am not convinced al qaeda can be beaten this way.

AOG appears to find himself agreeing with the former Guardian editor

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/j ul/12/afghanistan-taliban-pakistan-al-qaida

A historic moment.
According to Miliband this evening we are training up 2000 Afghan troops every month. Where are they being sent to? Are they too concerned about protecting Kabul and not being sent where the terrorists are? As they are being trained up why are they not replacing our troops in Helmund? How many Taliban are out there? The enemy must be outnumbered 10:1 by now.

Like Iraq there should be an end date, preferably by Xmas. Its a battle we can't win but maybe it can with only Afghan troops. Why can't they be trained up in Britain and then we could leave?
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According to Miliband this evening we are training up 2000 Afghan troops every month. Where are they being sent to?

Perhaps they will be shipped to Britain to protect our streets.

These would be immigrants we would welcome, at least they would maybe lay their lives on the line to protect Britain, unlike some we already have here.
rov....it doesn't matter where the Afghans are trained, the point is that until they can take over the fight against the Taliban, noone ain't goin any where.


The is NO end date cus there is no objective.
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Why can't they be trained up in Britain and then we could leave?

That's an excellent idea rov, we have all the facilities here, as well as the world's best and most experienced troops to train them.

They could get on with the job of given them the full training necessary without any interruptions.

Of course while here those Afghans would have to give up their drug habit.
anotheoldgit

You will find the Afghans sell their poppies for use in the decadent west, and do not have a significant drug problem amongst its youth. The Quran forbids intoxicates which includes drugs as well as alcohol.
I think youre an arse.
Cheers leg.
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Gromit

You will find the Afghans sell their poppies for use in the decadent west, and do not have a significant drug problem amongst its youth.

Obviously you know little about members of the Afghan army, they forever crash out with a marijuana spiff.

I know because I know someone who has served with them in Afghanistan.
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The Quran forbids intoxicates which includes drugs as well as alcohol.

Regardless of what the Koran forbids, haven't you noticed how much alcohol some Muslims in this country put away?

Never been on holiday in a Muslim country Gromit, they go mad for your 'duty free'?
Your point about the Afghan youth is correct AOG

According to the most recent UN figures in 2005, there are about one million addicts in a country of about 30 million people.
But some officials and organisations believe that the true figure is higher.
I want one of these marijuana 'spiffs'.

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