help!!

[Englishbird]

My friend has 6 points on her licence and has just had two more speeding tickets come through which will take her up to 12 points

Has anyone been in this situation - if she loses her licence she will lose her job.  If she loses her job she will lose her flat

 

I've looked it up and it says you 'may' be able to get off a ban by showing that it will cause extreem hardship. Would this count as extreem hardship and where does she go from here. She's been advised to get a solicitor which could cost her upto �1000 which again she doesn't have

 

Any Help appreciated.

[undercovers]

seems unlikely that she wouldn't get banned - the other points on her licence should have been seen as a warning to change her ways and stick to the speed limit - if not for the sake for the other road users then for herself as she was halfway towards a ban. obviously she is a bad driver and we should be protected from her - so a ban is in order. There are other jobs, as i'm sure she will soon have to find out.

[ICEMANSAV]

Actually yes she can keep her license. If it can be proved that by losing her license she will be definately out of a job and cannot rely on any other means of transport i.e public. This is very rare however, also the court would take into consideration the fact that loss of her job would be a by product of her actions, they would suggest getting a local job where transportation is not required. As undercovers has pointed out they would not look positively on repeated offence and would feel that a more adequate punishment would be beneficial.

However i do know someone ( a lorry driver ) who has 13 points on his license and has kept it due to his job despit all the points being accumulated from speeding.

[Englishbird]

No preachy answers please.  she know's she's screwed up and fyi all speeding offences were camaras on motorways - and if you're one of those saintly people who never do anything wrong, then bully for you.

[ICEMANSAV]

My answer was not preaching. It is a fair representation of what the court will consider an adequate punishment after her offence.

[Englishbird]

i didn't mean yours - that's why i rated your answer as positive. sorry - just undercovers answer annoyed me.

[Loosehead]

As others have said it is possible to not get banned with 12 points but quite rare. A solicotor may help but it's a lot of expense when they can't do anything she can't do herself . She's pleading guilty so you're only argueing about the punishment, just be contrite, articulate and constructive. If she can get a representative of her employer to go with her to confirm under oath that she will lose her job if she loses her license then that would help. I've heard about salesmen getting off by doing this and also making it clear that they and their kids would then become a burden on the state etc etc. I guess it also depends on the magistrates. Good Luck

[Shire]

Not sure if I'm being dense, but what difference does it make that all her speeding convictions were from cameras on motorways?  Speeding is speeding I'm afraid, and before you assume that I'm one of those who "never do anything wrong", I'm as guilty of speeding on motorways as your friend is, and no doubt I will be caught at some point in the future, as was my husband, who got a ticket for doing 46mph in a 40mph area last month.  Tickets and fines are something that you risk if you break the law unfortunately. 

[Englishbird]

I think what i was trying to say is that we all do it (especially on motorways) I'm not saying that she shouldn't have got the tickets, or that it's ok to speed or break the law at all, but i was looking for constructive answers rather than a ticking off.  I do take your point shire, and i'm not disagreeing.  It's a law of averages and a rep that is on the road most of the time is more likely to get more points than someone who only drives locally.  It does seem a little harsh though that she - or anyone - stands to lose their job and home because of a couple of camera's catching you slightly over the speed limit. And the irony is that if you're the sort of person who drives without having your car registered to you, with no insurance and no tax - you won't get done anyway because they wont be able to trace you.

[Gef]

You speed, you get caught, you deal with the consequences. Englishbird please shut up.

[grahamharvey]

Were they camera offences. If so, get a friend to take the points. Are you clear of points. You could be named as the driver.

[Mortartube]

Your friend could always do what a police officer did (and got away with it), claim that you can't remember who was driving the car at the time of the offence.

[undercovers]

tut tut tut tut tut - englishbird your annoyed with me for being annoyed with your mate for breaking the law, when will the annoyance end? when your mate loses her licence and her job and her house for being stupid, and when you realise that the laws of the road are not there to catch you out of generate revenue but to protect us all from idiots on the road that can not be trusted (even after being warned) to uses their vehicles sensibly. Don't ask a question about how to break the law, get caught and then wriggle out of the punishment if you don't want someone like me to tell you to shut up... i think you need to grow up and tell your friend to take some responsibility for her actions

[Englishbird]

thanks to all those with constructive answers x