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just watching news this morning.brown gets tough on knife crime!the governent now wants answers.sending kids to have a peekaboo in prisons and setting up meetings with victims.bullsht!we should have national service,make our younger generation join the army after they leave school..the government is too soft in my view.i know i was in prison since 16yrs of age.getting arrested an average of 3 times a year since i was 10 yrs of age for burglary.burning schools down.etc..i was, i admit one little btsrd!uncontrollable.had all kinds of police liason officers coming to see me at home.i only told them to get out.more than half of my adult life spent in different prisons.anyway i have wised up and it took me a long time and i live by the law and have respect for the law now..only because i grew up and out of it..prison didnt change me..it only made me worse!! but since i left school i allways had a burning ambition to join the army..i tried only to be told that i couldnt because i allready had a record and all kinds of cautions since an early age..i really felt that the army would make a man out of me but they knocked me back...so i was once again on the road to ruin...the judge was going to give me a suspended sentence the first time i was in an adult crown court at 16 for gbh..i told my solicitor i wanted to o to jail i didnt want a suspended sentence,i wanted to be in jail and maybe i thought it would off done me good or maybe i just wanted to be a big lad and be with the gangsters...no matter it only made me worse..far worse!im totally ashamed of my past and find it hard deal with.i had issues with abuse etc.i dont know wot happened to me to be honest but after the phyciatrists.pycologists,jail,it was only my own maturity and growing up that i learned that it was wrong.anyway my answer to knife crime is put these kids into the army where the will learn respect and they will serve their country with honour ,where they wont leave school and wont sign on the dole.
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The years of National Service cover almost two decades - from World War Two to the birth of the Beatles. In all, between 1945 and 1963, 2.5 million young men were compelled to do their time in National Service - with 6,000 being called up every fortnight.
Some went willingly, while others were reluctant but resigned. A few were downright bloody-minded, seeing little difference between their call up and the press gangs of Britain's distant past. At first public opinion was behind the idea of peacetime conscription, or national service. It was clear in the immediate post war political landscape that Britain had considerable obligations, and only a limited number of men still in service.
In the milk bars and Lyon's tea shops of those days, no amount of government propaganda could stop youngsters of both sexes grousing about the disruption to their lives caused by national service. It would have an effect on education plans, young boys starting apprenticeships, and on girlfriends faced with the prospect of their partners disappearing with only occasional leave. The only escape, so it seemed, was failing the medical.
There are tragic stories too, of young men who simply couldn't cope with enforced military life, or the pain of separation from their families and for whom suicide was the only way out. But what of the longer term impact on these men? Among the more independent young soldiers, they learnt a contempt for the army, which damaged morale and affected the image of the army to the outside world, not only was it supplying more men than the services could absorb, but it was draining resources to train them, and taking fit and able young men out of the economy. Not to mention those that unwillingly died during national service either in fighting, during atomic tests or as hunman guinea pigs for germ warfare.
Some went willingly, while others were reluctant but resigned. A few were downright bloody-minded, seeing little difference between their call up and the press gangs of Britain's distant past. At first public opinion was behind the idea of peacetime conscription, or national service. It was clear in the immediate post war political landscape that Britain had considerable obligations, and only a limited number of men still in service.
In the milk bars and Lyon's tea shops of those days, no amount of government propaganda could stop youngsters of both sexes grousing about the disruption to their lives caused by national service. It would have an effect on education plans, young boys starting apprenticeships, and on girlfriends faced with the prospect of their partners disappearing with only occasional leave. The only escape, so it seemed, was failing the medical.
There are tragic stories too, of young men who simply couldn't cope with enforced military life, or the pain of separation from their families and for whom suicide was the only way out. But what of the longer term impact on these men? Among the more independent young soldiers, they learnt a contempt for the army, which damaged morale and affected the image of the army to the outside world, not only was it supplying more men than the services could absorb, but it was draining resources to train them, and taking fit and able young men out of the economy. Not to mention those that unwillingly died during national service either in fighting, during atomic tests or as hunman guinea pigs for germ warfare.
I have to disagree with andy on this one. Why on earth should nurserys bear the burden of giving children self worth? Surely thats the job of their parents?
Perhaps if we looked at the real problem, feral children breeding feral children and seeing it as their way of gaining money (benefits), that would solve half of the problem with the scum like society that we appear to be becoming.
Perhaps if we looked at the real problem, feral children breeding feral children and seeing it as their way of gaining money (benefits), that would solve half of the problem with the scum like society that we appear to be becoming.
My point is boo, that we have to break the circle somewhere.
I entirely agree that childrens' bnehaviour is the responsibility of their parents, but we have a generation - soon to be two generations, who have no discernable parenting skills to call upon.
If resources are placed in nursery education, we can start to rear a generation who do appreciate right and wrong, respect, kindness, and simply being nice because it is easier all round.
Hopefully that generation will grow into more thoughtful generous and decent aduts who will pass on those ideals to their children, and society steadily improves.
It will never happen, but it's an alternative to facist knee-jerking stupidity like that from the Home Secretary. Not everyone thinks like a politician - apart from other politicians, their goldfish bowl must have bullet-proof glass in it these days!
I entirely agree that childrens' bnehaviour is the responsibility of their parents, but we have a generation - soon to be two generations, who have no discernable parenting skills to call upon.
If resources are placed in nursery education, we can start to rear a generation who do appreciate right and wrong, respect, kindness, and simply being nice because it is easier all round.
Hopefully that generation will grow into more thoughtful generous and decent aduts who will pass on those ideals to their children, and society steadily improves.
It will never happen, but it's an alternative to facist knee-jerking stupidity like that from the Home Secretary. Not everyone thinks like a politician - apart from other politicians, their goldfish bowl must have bullet-proof glass in it these days!
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