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Mark Speight : An Inspector Calls
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7350 087.stm
Times must have been very hard for this guy.
I wonder if anyone contributed to his death.
He had just lost his very close girlfriend in horrible circumstances and was immediately named a murder suspect. Was there enough cause for this? Just cos he was in the same flat? There is sometimes need for restraint, given what he has just undergone, and given the fact that there was obviously very little pointing to him as culprit: yet the police by default just haul him in. I bet he got a right grilling 'You're to blame, etc etc, be harsh on him and he'll confess'. I wonder if the police have some blood on their hands.
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Times must have been very hard for this guy.
I wonder if anyone contributed to his death.
He had just lost his very close girlfriend in horrible circumstances and was immediately named a murder suspect. Was there enough cause for this? Just cos he was in the same flat? There is sometimes need for restraint, given what he has just undergone, and given the fact that there was obviously very little pointing to him as culprit: yet the police by default just haul him in. I bet he got a right grilling 'You're to blame, etc etc, be harsh on him and he'll confess'. I wonder if the police have some blood on their hands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inspector_Call s
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He was completely negligent to let his girlfriend die from an overdose of drugs that he may or may not of given her.
He felt guilty and killed himself.
If neither had taken drugs that night both would still be alive.
Casual drugs use killed them not the police trying to investigate what had happened, imagine if the police 'went easy' on all cases as not to upset people, there would be no criminals convicted.
He felt guilty and killed himself.
If neither had taken drugs that night both would still be alive.
Casual drugs use killed them not the police trying to investigate what had happened, imagine if the police 'went easy' on all cases as not to upset people, there would be no criminals convicted.
He was completely negligent to stay sleeping in bed while she toddled off to the bath and had a heartattack from a preexisting heart condition maybe?
He felt bad about it, felt guilty about it and ultimately responsible when a policeofficer told him that he had killed her (this is conjecture but well within the range of police bully behaviours I have witnessed).
If neither had taken drugs...."""" If someone had provided a decent shoulder of support for him and forced him to get psychiatric care????
I'm not suggesting the police go soft on criminals. I suggest that once they know he's not being charged, but know what he's been put through, and know well his state of mind, they don't just say 'here's a number for a counsellor' (like they probably did), but get a professional evaluation of his mental state. I believe they probably had an indication that he was in a very bad way. Irrespective of the legitimacy of arrest, their arrest and questioning probably exacerbated the problem, so they could have sought to alleviate it.
Fact is: guy's dead. He died of his mental state. He could have probably been helped through it. He wasn't.
He felt bad about it, felt guilty about it and ultimately responsible when a policeofficer told him that he had killed her (this is conjecture but well within the range of police bully behaviours I have witnessed).
If neither had taken drugs...."""" If someone had provided a decent shoulder of support for him and forced him to get psychiatric care????
I'm not suggesting the police go soft on criminals. I suggest that once they know he's not being charged, but know what he's been put through, and know well his state of mind, they don't just say 'here's a number for a counsellor' (like they probably did), but get a professional evaluation of his mental state. I believe they probably had an indication that he was in a very bad way. Irrespective of the legitimacy of arrest, their arrest and questioning probably exacerbated the problem, so they could have sought to alleviate it.
Fact is: guy's dead. He died of his mental state. He could have probably been helped through it. He wasn't.
RevFunk: I'd have compassion for anyone who would take their own life. I think you must be in a tortured state of mind to do so and my heart really does go out to them. So be it Pete Docherty, Mark Speight or Joe Bloggs next door, if it were in the news I'd feel for them and wouldn't make a mockery of their death.
And how did he contribute to his girl friends death, you've lost me on that one?
And how did he contribute to his girl friends death, you've lost me on that one?
There are some harsh comments on here. I dont think it has been mentioned about Mark's fiancees mother taking him in after her death. I admire this lady. She cannot have blamed him for her death, or introducing her to drugs or she would not have been trying to look after him.
I think it is unfair to say that he should have been taken forcefully for help. Perhaps only a professional would have judged his emotional state as dangerous. How do you recognise someones passage through grief has moved from that to being totally overwhelmed? If it is easy to see and help then many suicides would be stopped.
I am not a fan of the police, who I know to be very heavy handed, and lacking in common sense, in some situations. But you cannot expect any sudden death in those circumstances (hers) to go uninvestigated. I am sure the guilt he felt would not have been made worse by anyone else.
I expect both of these people expected to live happy and successful lives. That they didn't due to drugs is a tragedy and another warning that it is not possible to enter the world of drug taking and naively promise yourself you will be very careful to keep control and be safe..
The fact that they were not known, or barely known, to most people, and were drug users, does not make their demise any less sad.
I think it is unfair to say that he should have been taken forcefully for help. Perhaps only a professional would have judged his emotional state as dangerous. How do you recognise someones passage through grief has moved from that to being totally overwhelmed? If it is easy to see and help then many suicides would be stopped.
I am not a fan of the police, who I know to be very heavy handed, and lacking in common sense, in some situations. But you cannot expect any sudden death in those circumstances (hers) to go uninvestigated. I am sure the guilt he felt would not have been made worse by anyone else.
I expect both of these people expected to live happy and successful lives. That they didn't due to drugs is a tragedy and another warning that it is not possible to enter the world of drug taking and naively promise yourself you will be very careful to keep control and be safe..
The fact that they were not known, or barely known, to most people, and were drug users, does not make their demise any less sad.
I dont think anyone has mentioned that the girlfriend had lots of sleeping pills in her body as well so that probably led to her becoming unconcious in the bath - not the coke which keeps you awake? I wouldnt judge either of them Mark was a nice bloke and a talented artist and it is tragic that he killed himself
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