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Weirder and weirder!
This story really should be made into a film, you just couldn't make it up!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/73 31107.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/73 31107.stm
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I'm not saying the working families were dysfunctional - it is because there is no work for them they are now dysfunctional
Some of those pit and foundry workers were very hard drinking men, who used to get drunk regularly and beat their wives, keeping the family in abject poverty.
Close knit, maybe, but people turned a blind eye to it.
No state handouts, but there was parish relief and the workhouse, soup kitchens and so on.
Some of those pit and foundry workers were very hard drinking men, who used to get drunk regularly and beat their wives, keeping the family in abject poverty.
Close knit, maybe, but people turned a blind eye to it.
No state handouts, but there was parish relief and the workhouse, soup kitchens and so on.
Oh blimey Nat!
It really reads like a film script doesn't it? In fact if it WAS a film script you'd stop watching it half way through for it's lack of believability!
The good thing to come out of it I suppose is that Shannon is now removed from that circus freakshow of a family, here's hoping all the remaining kids are too and that they can have some sort of a normal life.
It really reads like a film script doesn't it? In fact if it WAS a film script you'd stop watching it half way through for it's lack of believability!
The good thing to come out of it I suppose is that Shannon is now removed from that circus freakshow of a family, here's hoping all the remaining kids are too and that they can have some sort of a normal life.
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I vaguely remember something about the three children she had living with her were taken in to care last week. Will have a look on the news site.....
That poor little girl; I was thinking this morning though, what with everything that is going on, I know the police can't divulge too much information, but if I was a 9 year old girl that was being mistreated and saw all this going on in the news it would only encourage me not to report anything to the authorities. I understand that there are strict condes of confidentiality but I wish they would either tell us or not tell us what is going on, for people's sakes who might be too frightened to come forward as it is.
That poor little girl; I was thinking this morning though, what with everything that is going on, I know the police can't divulge too much information, but if I was a 9 year old girl that was being mistreated and saw all this going on in the news it would only encourage me not to report anything to the authorities. I understand that there are strict condes of confidentiality but I wish they would either tell us or not tell us what is going on, for people's sakes who might be too frightened to come forward as it is.
lol Raggy- yes that plotline is vaguely familiar!
Natalie- it was only last week I was more or less saying that no matter how awful their family life was that it was better that Shannon was returned to her mum who obviously loved her in a slapdash kind of way! Now though, I've changed my mind totally- it appears that the entire family are somehow involved and that poor little girl is better off having nowt to do with the whole lot of 'em!
Natalie- it was only last week I was more or less saying that no matter how awful their family life was that it was better that Shannon was returned to her mum who obviously loved her in a slapdash kind of way! Now though, I've changed my mind totally- it appears that the entire family are somehow involved and that poor little girl is better off having nowt to do with the whole lot of 'em!
Sorry Ethel but I think you are guilty of over generalizing when you say,
Some of those pit and foundry workers were very hard drinking men, who used to get drunk regularly and beat their wives, keeping the family in abject poverty.
Methinks you may have read too many Kathleen Cookson books.
As regards being dysfunctional because there is no work for them. There is plenty of work if one goes out to look for it. In fact we are constantly being told that the immigrants are only doing the jobs that we refuse to do.
No state handouts, but there was parish relief and the workhouse, soup kitchens and so on.
Some choice eh? Not quite like that weekly trip to the Post Office for that handful of "readies", even so the majority of these miners, steel workers, ship builders etc. were proud folk, and a man considered himself a failure if he could not provide for his wife and family.
Some of those pit and foundry workers were very hard drinking men, who used to get drunk regularly and beat their wives, keeping the family in abject poverty.
Methinks you may have read too many Kathleen Cookson books.
As regards being dysfunctional because there is no work for them. There is plenty of work if one goes out to look for it. In fact we are constantly being told that the immigrants are only doing the jobs that we refuse to do.
No state handouts, but there was parish relief and the workhouse, soup kitchens and so on.
Some choice eh? Not quite like that weekly trip to the Post Office for that handful of "readies", even so the majority of these miners, steel workers, ship builders etc. were proud folk, and a man considered himself a failure if he could not provide for his wife and family.
'Some' is not generalising. And it is what I saw in my childhood, in my community.
Thankfully I had good parents, but not all families were like mine. My next door neighbour had to meet her husband at the factory gate on pay day, to get the wages before he went to the pub.
We heard things through the wall which would have Social Services and the police at their door today.
I've seen children with rickets and malnutrition - and remember the pop shop on the corner where women pawned their goods from one week to the next.
I don't need to read 'penny dreadfuls' to know there have always been this rough element of society, thanks.
Because of my family's business we saw it all.
Thankfully I had good parents, but not all families were like mine. My next door neighbour had to meet her husband at the factory gate on pay day, to get the wages before he went to the pub.
We heard things through the wall which would have Social Services and the police at their door today.
I've seen children with rickets and malnutrition - and remember the pop shop on the corner where women pawned their goods from one week to the next.
I don't need to read 'penny dreadfuls' to know there have always been this rough element of society, thanks.
Because of my family's business we saw it all.
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