Why Is The Civil Service Incapable Of Running It?

youngmafbog | 10:23 Wed 08th May 2024 | News

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Now it's the new Border Force system crashing. What happened to BCP abd DR then? What an absolute joke.

Time the HO was split up, it's too much for one person, Matthew Rycroft is a nice enough chap but fingers in too many pies to have a good handle on everything.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13394455/Chaos-Britains-airports-passport-e-gates-crashed-following-nationwide-collapse-children-waiting-without-food-water-hours-bathroom-taps-running-water.html

Why, Praytell?

Another One Bites The Dust.

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andy-hughes

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The problem with the Civil Service is the problem with every government run system in the country - the absence of accountability.People are allowed to dream up nonsense, implement it, watch it crash and burn, shrug shoulders, and move on.No-one is ever called to account for their stupidity, or dismissed because of it, so the culture of doing as they please...

10:47 Wed 08th May 2024

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youngmafbog

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And what annoyed me most was someone who rushes to Google all the time didnt this time for some reason.(Although I suspect I know why)

ToraToraTora

We have a BCP and we also have a BMR. Sometimes even with a BCP the site cannot be recovered. So our BCP involves continuually mirroring every change to the mainframe and they switch every 6 months. Now if corruption occurs it can be propagated to the back up machine and cause a lot of damage until realised. To recover from that we use a BMR, basically various techneques like roll back journalling etc etc are used to get us back to where we should be. YMB ever heard of that?

youngmafbog

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Not heard of the term TTT but I know th process. It's very useful when hacked as you have to go back to when you know it was all good.

It's the same in the distrubited world and the Cloud except obviously if you use a commmercail cloud (Azure/AWS etc) rather than your own some of it is done for you

Prudie

Just have to comment that I have also written a BCP for the site where I work and it's NOT for IT although that may feature. It's about how you'd deal with staff, deaths, injuries, carrying on with production, evacuation, power outages, collapse of phones, dealing with the media - allsorts. Anything disastrous that could happen and how to "continue the business". We sometimes do exercises - say a helicopter fell on the workshop. Nothing to do with IT.

I wouldn't have joined in if you hadn't been so pedantic about what a BCP is and who shoould know about. It has completely taken the thread away from what is far more valid to discuss.