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Why Are The Kids Stabbing Each Other?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-67365743

One life gone another ruined. What's the answer? We all carried knives when I was their age, I don't remember anyone getting stabbed.

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Absolute tragic loss of life.  Shocking and way too common.  I have never carried a knife but with incidents like this on the rise, more people are likely to begin carrying some form of self defence, sadly.

i wonder if playing certain video games contribute to this violence, obviously games are not real and there is no real victims, and violent films, bad parenting living in bad neighborhoods, prison to them is like a medal of honor, lost generation perhaps, woke teaching in schools, ie my rights.

tomus - //

//Ken - the problem with 'deterrent' sentences is, the mindset that carries and uses a knife is not the mindset that even thinks about, much less is deterred by, thoughts of the consequences of doing so.//

Which is exactly why tough sentences are required. The violent yet  'undeterrable' need to be kept out of circulation for as long as possible. //

You are talking about two different things.

Sentences don't deter knife carriers / users, but longer sentences do keep them incarcertated for longer.

 

However, the two scearios are not the same, and they are, in fact, mutually exclusive.

fender - // i wonder if playing certain video games contribute to this violence, obviously games are not real and there is no real victims, and violent films, bad parenting living in bad neighborhoods, prison to them is like a medal of honor, lost generation perhaps, woke teaching in schools, ie my rights. //

Video games, and cinema and television before them, have always been a convenient target for the reasons of anti-social behaviour, although the evidence does not support that notion.

The issue is a social one - lack of a proper family structure leaves some young people without moral guidance and a sense of self and security.

The absence os security and feeling of self-worth is filled by the gang culture, which provides a sense of 'belonging' with like-minded people.

Another by-product of screaming insecurity and absence of self-worth, is a seriously skewed perception of the concept of 'respect'.

Insecure unhappy youths have hairtriggers when they believe that they are being 'disrespected', and gang culture teaches than any such offences should be met with instant violence as a way of enhancing the internal feelings and the external image of the individual simultaniously.

While we breed teenagers and young men without that basic sense of self worth and respect for themselves and everyone else, the current evils of knife crime will continue.

Fender, I agree with you.  I think all of those things are contributing factors.

I agree with Fender as well.  Thinking back to the 80s and 90s when my son was young, things have quite dramatically escalated.  I can quite honestly say I'd be really worried now if I had a child.  

And I agree with Andy as well.  Lack of good parenting and break down in family structure in my opinion is the worst of the  problems.  I would be a really worried parent if I lived in some areas.  Kids need some freedom to grow and thrive in society but parents must now be in a quandary as to how to balance things out.  

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