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ToraToraTora | 15:20 Wed 13th Jan 2021 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55646902
.. when they are often having to apologise for its atrocities? Surely it's time to disenfranchise the state from religion?
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"The evil acts were carried out by evil people & had nothing to do with Catholicism or Christianity in fact they were the antithesis of it." Khandro on the previous page to this. Khandro - the vile abuses were carried out by people in Holy Orders and wearing habits and dog-collars - they were then stoutly denied for many years by a church which knew exactly what...
17:54 Wed 13th Jan 2021
The cover ups, Khandro? They let paedophiles carry on abusing children by just moving them to a different church knowing it would continue happening.
I (sort of) agree with what I think khandro is saying: There have always been people (mostly men) who want to hurt and subjugate others (mostly women) Religion just gives them a framework in which to do that, and have it justified. If you took away catholicism, and other religions tomorrow, there would still be the need for some to control others and they'd either re-invent it or find a different framework
Weird how so many alter boys were abused though or was it just because they had more access to young boys?

There is no way I would have ever let one of my sons be an alter boy. Not a hope in hell.

And what about the brainwashed parents? I read about a child being slapped for telling his parents he was being sexually abused by a priest.

My dad would have beat the crap out of the priest if it happened to me, so would my mum actually.
Ummmm...if you're still around. Don't know if you've had a look at the report...difficult I know...or listened to the many interviews over the last couple of days.
I've spent much of today learning as much as I can. No good spouting on in ignorance.

A girl had a baby in Tuam I think it was. On the fifth day she got up to feed him to find he'd been sold by the nuns.
She went to their church and smashed to the ground the statue of their virgin and baby.
She didn't want to have to pray every day under that statue, revered by Catholics, when she no longer had her baby to cradle.
I thought I knew quite a bit but that form of torture had never occurred to me until today but it's really got to me.
gness, I hear what you are saying - I really do, but your anger and the girl's (& mine for that matter) should be leveled, not at the abstraction of 'the church', but at the nun perpetrators of such a crime and most emphatically at the head of that institution.
The simple fact is, nuns and priests are arrested adolescents.

They never mature into adult thinking, and the reverence with which they are worshiped simply adds to their immature view of the world, and a seriously under-developed sense of right and wrong.

When priests know that if they dropped their cassocks and dumped on the carpet, the woman of the house would say it was good for the pile, it's a very short step to thinking you can do exactly as you please, to whom you please, and no-one is ever going to tell you that you are wrong, and you need to stop.

That of course is facilitated by church's habit of simply relocating an abusive priest when it can no longer pretend that he is being a normal human being actually fulfilling the role it has placed him in.

I don't say that all priests become abusers, of course they don't but the utterly unnatural life they lead, coupled with the adoration they are offered, and the tacit support in their deviance by their employers means that the church is an abuser's playground, and the church is completely responsible for creating and sustaining that system to this day.
Tambo. You have said you know nothing about Ireland. You may be interested to know this.

The Bon Secours have just issued an apology over the way they ran their home in Tuam. Quite a read.

Of particular interest to you may be that included is an apology for burying infants and babies in an illegal and disrespectful way. Something you denied could have happened.

I'm really interested to know what has made the nuns apologise now.
They have refused to speak about it to anyone for years.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/tuam-nuns-apologize-after-final-mother-and-baby-home-report
Anyone still alive directly involved should be on trial for murder.

They even admit what I have been saying all along; this has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity, in fact it is anathema to it.

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