Is This Really About 'unhealthy Food' ?

[TheDevil]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/03/teachers-acting-like-bouncers-outside-takeaways-sweet-shops/

[youngmafbog]

"Teachers have no right to parent the pupils."

Well if the parents did it then maybe they would feel the need to. If that is what they are doing.

[TheDevil]

If parents feel it's appropriate for their kids to walk home alone then there isn't a need for a teachers presence to be lurking over the pupils off campus and especially in stores.

[ludwig]

Summary of statement : "Following complaints, we've decided we went to far and will stop doing it".

[TheDevil]

YMB - "Well if the parents did it then maybe they would feel the need to. If that is what they are doing."
From this story, what indicates that parents aren't parenting their kids? If they have money to buy chip shop then they're being financially supported at the very least.

[dannyk13]

Over and above what they are authorised to do.The power given by Gove was in respect of pupils causing disturbances and fighting.

[TheDevil]

Sorry YMB it seems i got confused 12:41.

[Mamyalynne]

A balanced response from the school.

[retrocop]

Perhaps the teachers are concerned with these recent events. After all Bristol has a large ethnic population.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/12/chicken-shop-drug-gangs-recruit-children-with-food-inquiry-finds

[THECORBYLOON]

If, as the statement says, pupils "should not use the shops", as opposed to, "must not", why were detentions an option?

[puzzled54]

When I was at school many years ago, we were not generally allowed out at lunchtime, but if we did go out it was against the school rules to go to the chip shop and be seen eating chips in the street in school uniform.

[TheDevil]

Retrocop, yes I was hinting at things such as that.

Or such as this...

https://metro.co.uk/2017/05/16/brothers-jailed-for-grooming-girls-with-free-sweets-at-their-corner-shop-6640080/

[ludwig]

Possibly retro, but the police should be policing that kind of thing, not teachers.

[retrocop]

Ludwig
I agree. The police,however,are playing a very pro active role in stopping this grooming, especially BTP, and other county line measures elsewhere.

[Bazile]

There would have been trouble if it had happened when i was at school .

Imagine my teachers trying to stop me getting my saveloy and chips - i would not have stood for it

The very idea

[paddywak]

If they tried that sort of thing on the local estate (Giro City) the kids would probably tell them to *** Off, thats if they didn't just mug them.

[jourdain2]

When I began teaching (in 1972) it was impressed upon me that I was 'in loco parentis' until the pupils returned home to the care of their parents. I'm not sure what has changed. It did mean that occasionally I would have to stay at school until a parent arrived, or else walk/drive the child home. Things seem to have changed.

I've no time for the way some of these teachers seem to be over-using their powers, but there may well be more to it than meets the eye. In my last school (very large comp. in Bradford) you were expected, if on duty, to stroll outside the grounds and shepherd kids back - unless they were 'home lunchers'. This was not only to protect them and save possible incidents with pupils from neighbouring schools, but also because somewhere in the local shops someone was selling them 'Whizz' (an amphet.) which caused immense problems in the afternoons.

So, I'm a bit confused about this. I'll ask about the legal situation next time I'm in school (Mon. a.m.).