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The Uk Will Have To Face The Consequences Of No Deal.
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So will the EUSSR, Barmpot, me old china! Gawd ,the arrogance of these J arthurs, no wonder we are leaving. Why is it always portrayed as a one side thing?
So will the EUSSR, Barmpot, me old china! Gawd ,the arrogance of these J arthurs, no wonder we are leaving. Why is it always portrayed as a one side thing?
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//In order to do any sort of sensible deal we'll first have to leave with no deal.// Spot on, 3Ts. And three years have been wasted trying to negotiate the other way around.Mrs May never had any intention of leaving without a deal. In fact if she had her way we wouldn't leave at all. The EU knew this. Hence the "Agreement", which is arguably worse than membership,...
21:30 Thu 18th Jul 2019
In the meantime, yet another economic analysis, this time from the Office for Budget Responsibility, suggests that even in an optimistic scenario, No Deal sees a short-term hit to the UK that amounts to about 2% loss of GDP by the end of next year.
I can understand that people might choose to dispute this analysis, mostly because it's inconvenient to their case, but there's no sense in pretending that there isn't a serious, and well-supported, rational argument that a No Deal exit is bad for the UK. It's not about pessimism, it's about evidence.
I can understand that people might choose to dispute this analysis, mostly because it's inconvenient to their case, but there's no sense in pretending that there isn't a serious, and well-supported, rational argument that a No Deal exit is bad for the UK. It's not about pessimism, it's about evidence.
Office for Budget Responsibility..... Awww stop. Founded by …...tada.
George Osborne.....Remainiac in extremis himself. Now the "editor of the London(rag) Evening Standard. Cameron's lap dog, and Drunker's guard dog. More lopsided reference points from our resident maff ma titian. (He painted pictures as well ya no.)
George Osborne.....Remainiac in extremis himself. Now the "editor of the London(rag) Evening Standard. Cameron's lap dog, and Drunker's guard dog. More lopsided reference points from our resident maff ma titian. (He painted pictures as well ya no.)
Short-term hit.
Just 2% loss of by the end of the year.
Hardly a problem longer term, which is where the exit is a good, IMO necessary thing for the UK. We could recoup that in a year, maybe even quicker as multiple global trade agreements kick in. Is that the worst that can be threatened ? Someone's slipping.
Just 2% loss of by the end of the year.
Hardly a problem longer term, which is where the exit is a good, IMO necessary thing for the UK. We could recoup that in a year, maybe even quicker as multiple global trade agreements kick in. Is that the worst that can be threatened ? Someone's slipping.
YMB: "TTT, it is difficult to know where the EU are coming from. Are they really that deluded or do they think they will be able to stop Brexit and hang onto the UK enormous contribution to their Ponzi scheme? " - Yes I think they hope their collaborators in the HOQ will somehow stop brexit by convincing us that it's too difficult to leave, when it is in fact very simple. In order to do any sort of sensible deal we'll first have to leave with no deal.
//In order to do any sort of sensible deal we'll first have to leave with no deal.//
Spot on, 3Ts. And three years have been wasted trying to negotiate the other way around.Mrs May never had any intention of leaving without a deal. In fact if she had her way we wouldn't leave at all. The EU knew this. Hence the "Agreement", which is arguably worse than membership, and which the EU insist is the only way we can leave. I have a fourteen year old niece who has a better idea of negotiations.
Spot on, 3Ts. And three years have been wasted trying to negotiate the other way around.Mrs May never had any intention of leaving without a deal. In fact if she had her way we wouldn't leave at all. The EU knew this. Hence the "Agreement", which is arguably worse than membership, and which the EU insist is the only way we can leave. I have a fourteen year old niece who has a better idea of negotiations.
ZM: "Article 50 does make it clear there would be no negotiation with the leaving member state. So quite why the politicians rejected May’s deal/s (or even why she went to them in the vain hope of brokering one) is a bit of a mystery. " - so you agree with me above, we must leave with no deal because there never was a possibility of a "deal"?
There was the possibility of a deal though that would serve Britain's interests better.
The problem arose when the ineptitude of the Government meant that the EU were rubbing their hands with glee as May capitulated.
May was then stonewalled by the EU after attempts to renegotiate terms when the penny dropped that the agreed deal wasn't that good in the first place and then tried to cover up their failures by trying to convince the electorate that it was the best deal possible.
The problem arose when the ineptitude of the Government meant that the EU were rubbing their hands with glee as May capitulated.
May was then stonewalled by the EU after attempts to renegotiate terms when the penny dropped that the agreed deal wasn't that good in the first place and then tried to cover up their failures by trying to convince the electorate that it was the best deal possible.
No, Tora, I didn't say that. A50 states 'A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State'
Anyone know what that agreement (deal) is?
Anyone know what that agreement (deal) is?
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