Why Humans Can Never Be Replaced As Drivers.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45991093

[IJKLM]

Maybe we have to agree to disagree. While each node within a neural net is effected in conventional code, the overall result is far from linear.

Linear systems require essentially closed-form solutions, with the programmer building the system to take account of all possible options, and required to know those outcomes before building the system.

The neural net uses the multiple training data across a series of nodes to identify patterns that were previously non-obvious. That seems to me to be non-linear.

As for qunatum computing - I fail to see how nayone could see that as linear. Yes, the box of tricks needs programming using conventional code, but the outcome of simultaneously exploring all possible states is as non-linear as you can get.

What you are really saying (it seems to me) is that anything coded in a conventional linear language is, by definition linear, only because those languages are linear. And in fact, any high-level language will have to be linear because it needs to be parsed down to machine code by the OS.

Thus, you seem to be saying, that any piece of high-level code produces a linear result and therefore only is suited to linear processes.

I don't accept that assumption, but as I said, I think we'll have to agree to differ on that one.

[ToraToraTora]

"What you are really saying (it seems to me) is that anything coded in a conventional linear language is, by definition linear, only because those languages are linear. And in fact, any high-level language will have to be linear because it needs to be parsed down to machine code by the OS." - yes, indeed. I take your point about the neural nets and perhaps I wasn't clear enough, the net itself is non linear but the support code is. Yes learning can emerge, maybe machine intelligence will emerge from this area.

[Old_Geezer]

Why is it being implied that human (or animal generally) intelligence is more than a brain (neuron network/processing unit) executing one calculation after another and coming up with a result ? If it's more/different what is this extra/difference ?

[Zacs-Master]

Sentience, OG.

[Old_Geezer]

Isn't that emergent from the calculations made ? Calculations on what's happening are performed and result says, "this is undesirable/sad, this is good/appreciated". Lower life forms don't appear to be sentient, but give enough processing power and higher forms achieve it. Give it time and HUM∀NS occur.

[ToraToraTora]

OG perhaps our brains are indeed just very advanced programming. The point here is that software currently is no where near good enough to emulate a brain.

[spathiphyllum]

Good example

[spathiphyllum]

He was ok btw ^^^

[spathiphyllum]

“ OG perhaps our brains are indeed just very advanced programming“

You’re giving humans way too much credit, don’t forget the amount of idiots on the road, usually causing 99% of ‘accidents’

[Old_Geezer]

It doesn't need to emulate the whole brain, although I expect it to at some point, if our species survives long enough. It just needs to be good enough at the tasks that matter. My question was more about similarity between the two defined types intelligences.