A Dilemma - The First Crack In My Resolve ?

[Canary42]

As you just might have noticed, I am a staunch Remainer.

But in today's newspaper (paper version so no link, do your own research) I see that Remain is very strongly supported by the Bank of England's Governor, and by Barclays' CEO. It grieves me much to agree with Bankers, those greedy me-me-me rogues, so I might have to revise my vote.

Can I do that without the usual suspects going into super-gloat mode ?

[Zacs-Master]

And how does that impact, negatively, on the UK, OG?

[Old_Geezer]

Being dictated to is negative. No nation is worthy of the title if controlled by some outside group. But you know this; it's been mentioned in umpteen threads on this site.

[murraymints]

we need to escape the clutches of the Bundesbank !

[Zacs-Master]

I’m after some practical examples of how that impacts on us in a negative way. Do you have any? If not, you appear to be criticising the EU without any practical, meaningful basis.

[Gromit]

It isn’t an outside group.
We have UK Commissioners and UK MEPs. We are part of it. It is a collective which includes the UK.

[Zacs-Master]

No practical examples then, OG?

[Old_Geezer]

The practical examples are every time EU law overrides our own or what we want to do. Do your own search for example instances. The instances are less important that the principle anyway. Or do you feel someone in your family dictating what you do and don't do is better than you making your own decisions ? Same principle.

[Old_Geezer]

Of course it is an outside group. A token number of UK folk appointed by some official doesn't change that. And we still have to way to veto anything that results.

[Zacs-Master]

‘Do your own search for example instances‘

There’s no surer sign of someone losing an argument than resorting to turning the tables on someone and asking them to prove the very point that person is being asked to.

I can’t find any examples, beacuase there aren’t any. If you’d like to challenge me on that, feel free to do so.

[sandyRoe]

Canary, don't change your views. Politics sometimes presents us with strange bedfellows. You should just hold your nose when in the company of bankers.
The usual suspects may gloat now but it'll be us who have the last laugh.

[Old_Geezer]

A surer way of knowing that someone losing an argument is that they send folk off to seek out examples for them, even though the same subject has been done umpteen times already here. I'm not your staff. Ask for something just to get someone busy and you'll naturally get told to do it yourself. Or are you denying EU law supercedes UK ? Or maybe you prefer that it does. But feel free to spin your lack of argument. I'll leave you to do so.

[Zacs-Master]

Lack of argument....rofl. All I asked you to do was back up your claim that the federalist agenda had ‘messed’ things up and give some examples of how the EU had impacted upon us negatively.
Surely if you make such statements you have the wherewithal to back them up without running off to research them?

[Old_Geezer]

It's not me thst wants them or thinks them in the slightest important. You desire the irrelevant examples, you go find them.