driving without insurance x2

[worried_gf]

my boyfriend has previous convictions on his license , driving without insurance ( he got 3 mth ban and fine) and running a red light (3pts) then recently he got caught with no insurance again after gettin his license back and he got 6 mths ban and �400 fine. We went out one weekend and he was driving up the road and got caught speeding on daul carrage way by police with gun and van, and his mum took the wrap (at least she fort she did) and today theyve produced a pic of him driving. Anyone know what will happen to him now? Last speeding offence he still had license. how can he get banned for no insurance if thats wot he's already banned for? HELP!

[jaq1964]

What an utterly selfish, dangerous, ingnorant pig!!!
You're just as much to blame as him for condoning what he does by getting in the car with him.
In an accident it's usually the innocent who get killed or injured the prats who cause the accident get away scot free!
HELP!? you need it all right! I hope they chuck the book at him and he gets locked up for a long time. He should get a lengthy ban..but why should that bother him? it hasn't so far. I think you (or anyone else knowingly driving with an uninsured/drunk/disqualified driver) should be charged as well.
People who drive without insurance often have no MOT or tax and therefore are an absolute danger on the roads and to pedestrians.
As for his mum... well I know you can't help loving your offsring, but to take the blame for such a serious offence, and for her son to allow her to do so it just beggers belief. A more loving gesture would have been for her to let him be punished and get him off the road!!!
My blood is boiling!!!
I won't say 'good luck' as in this case I definately won't wish it on him!

[JudgeJ]

Let�s try to restore some order to all of this. First of all, you cannot be sent to prison for driving with no insurance, no matter how many times you do it. However, that is the least of your boyfriend�s worries.

Among the things you can be sent down for are driving whilst disqualified and (particularly) attempting to pervert the course of justice. From what you say your b/f was not disqualified at the time of this offence. However, it seems quite certain that there is a case for both he and his mother to answer in relation to perverting the course of justice.

Without the full facts it is difficult to say, but from what you have provided it seems that both have them have tried to mislead the police into believing that she was driving. This is certainly within the scope of this serious offence which actually carried a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. However this case is at the lower end of the scale.

Nonetheless, as jake has pointed out, there have been recent examples of people being sent to prison in exactly the circumstances you describe. Your boyfriend�s mother can indeed be prosecuted for keeping an uninsured vehicle, but it is your boyfriend�s responsibility to ensure there is valid insurance in force for him to drive, before setting off in any vehicle. Any court he faces in connection with these matters will no doubt remind him of this.

[jake-the-peg]

I'd read this as he was under his 6 months ban when caught speeding - no matter.

It's not just keeping an uninsured vehicle.
Section 22 of the 2006 road safety bill says:


If a motor vehicle registered under the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 does not meet the insurance requirements, the person in whose name the vehicle is registered is guilty of an offence.

So if you lend somebody a car and they're not insured to drive it you're breaking this section of the act regardless of whether or not you're covered to drive!

[theren_911]

Ward~Minter - that would probably cost him a carton of smokes! (Lamberts - ofcourse)

[Goban Saor]

Your boyfriend is a criminal. He should get jail.

[royster3k]

Hello to all the law abiding motorists out there.
This guy deserves all he gets ( and lets hope it is severe )
I often wonder why the courts do not issue life time bans for people like this, although as he is so ignorant, arrogant or just plain stupid he would probably carry on doing what he is & to hell with anyone else ( until he kills himself or others).
I have been driving for 39 years now (Motorcycles, cars, trucks.) & have ALWAYS had tax, insurance, mot etc for every vehicle i have owned, so as far as i am concerned lock him up & throw away the key as he is obviously a public nuisance. No sympathy here.

PS: is he a drinker too??

[JudgeJ]

Strangely, royster3k, he may well be locked up, but ironically not for a motoring offence. There are very few purely motoring offences for which you can be imprisoned. The only ones I can immediately recall are Causing Death by Dangerous Driving, Dangerous Driving, Driving Whilst Disqualified, Excess Alcohol (and the associated offence of Refusal to supply a specimen), and Failing to Stop/Report an accident. No others are deemed worth of a custodial sentence no matter how many times you commit them.

There have been recent instances of people with a predilection to continually commit motoring offences to be served with an Anti Social Behaviour Order (ASBO) in an effort to prevent their re-offending. Breach of an ASBO carries a five year maximum prison sentence. If worried_gf�s boyfriend is not imprisoned on this occasion for Attempting to Pervert the Course of Justice it seems only a matter of time before he is convicted of another offence warranting custody (most probably driving whilst disqualified).

Magistrates (and of course judges) do have the right to impose driving bans for any offence, not only those related to driving, if it can be shown to be proportional and relevant. (A burglar can be disqualified from driving if it is considered that driving assists him in his activities). There is no limit in either court to the length of those bans, but lengthy bans (say more than 5 years) are seldom imposed and life bans very rarely. The thinking behind this is rather along the lines you summise. It is thought that the miscreant, with little or no light at the end of the tunnel, will be tempted to drive anyway. (I�m only telling you how it is � I don�t necessarily agree with it !!!).

There is certainly a case for increased penalties for drivers who commit serious offences or a string of minor ones. Unfortunately this is not likely at the moment.

[leadan]

I hope you get the advise you are looking for! Im sorry i can't help xx