Soft Brexit Could Damage Your Health Warn Doctors

[lindapalmara]

What shocks me most is that no language/competence checks can be done to protect "Freedom of movement" yet doctors coming from America and Australia and America have to sit a written exam three hour exam.

"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4074948/Soft-Brexit-damage-health-warn-doctors-Regulator-says-NHS-left-powerless-perform-checks-European-medics-UK-stays-single-market.html

Remember this

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/jun/16/daniel-ubani-gp-guilty-serious-misconduct

[lindapalmara]

Thank you Mamyalyne

[ichkeria]

All I can say is thank goodness for my Romanian dentist who spoke excellent English but more to the point was the only one on our NHS practice seemingly capabable of extracting a difficult tooth

[Old_Geezer]

Soft Brexit doesn't mean simply retaining certain connections. e.g free trade. It means being confronted by an EU determined to cut off their own nose to spite their face by insisting on the very things that persuaded many to vote leave, as preconditions for retaining tariff free trade, and we being so incredibly foolish and desperate to retain them that our negotiators capitulate at the negotiation table, thus leaving only in name, not in reality, and achieving a worse situation that we started with.

The ball is in the EU court. Either they have the ability to see dropping unconnected preconditions still allows a mutually advantageous trade agreement or they force a split without such an agreement. Soft Brexit is no Brexit, and not on the negotiation table.

[lindapalmara]

My sentiments exactly OG. We should offer ZERO/ZERO Tariffs which would benefit EU countries more than us and take advantage of our free trade possibilities as soon as possibles. We should also be prepared to walk away from the table if necessary.

Going back to Doctors, it's our standards we need to implement, not other countries.

[Zacs-Master]

Are you sure we're going to even be sat round the table?

[ladybirder]

Absolutely right OG and Linda. Bring it on.

[Peter Pedant]

// Going back to Doctors, it's our standards we need to implement, not other countries.//

er no I dont think you have understood the GMC URLs that have been hurled at you ( sorry looked at Harry Potter this evg) by sundery contributors ....
erm you did um look at a few didnt you?

[lindapalmara]

PP. If you could speak English I might understand you.

[lindapalmara]

PP If you mean Gromit Link at 12.54 I think you will find that particular webpage is based in Brussels, i.e. It's run by the EU.

[fiction-factory]

// I'm wondering whether they just have to take the ones they are told to take or//

Sorry PP, my attempt at sarcasm fell flat there in my attempt to show that Linda had clearly misunderstood/been misled by someone since it cannot possibly be the case that the NHS is powerless as to which doctors are appointed

[lindapalmara]

FF I don't tank I have misunderstood about screening doctors. EU Medics can work here without any necessary checks on their competence and, most important, language skills yet ones from other parts of thr world have to jump through hoops, apply for visas do written test and practical test before being allowed to practice in our hospitals. I have had experience of Carers employed by an Eastern European Agency who only employ Eastern Europeans, untrained who can't speak English looking after my Mother. Communication is an essential part of medical care. All we want is a level playing field and the ability to check qualifications etc.

Anyone on this forum can find link after link to support their own, often political, views but I have seen it happening.

[fiction-factory]

>I have had experience of Carers employed by an Eastern European Agency who only employ Eastern Europeans, untrained who can't speak English looking after my Mother.

Are you still talking about doctors, Linda?

[lindapalmara]

FF. Of course I'm talking about doctors. But the problem also covers the rest of the Medical/Care industry.

Go and have a lie down FF

[Peter Pedant]

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// PP. If you could speak English I might understand you.//

the relevant page is here
http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/registration_applications/acceptable_primary_medical_qualification.asp


honestly it is in English -altho it has some very long words
O god you gartta laugh at some people
I think you mean - "if I could read...."

[fiction-factory]

i'm feeling fine Linda and don't need lie down. I think PP has dealt with your misunderstanding about doctors. As for care workers, yes I can see the problem- firms that use agencies to fill such roles will often be seeking to get the cheapest staff they can