Can Someone Explain.

[teacake44]

I keep hearing on the media all this nonsense of football fans getting, and being frustrated about their clubs. What the hell they on about, if you want to go and see a match pay your money, see the match and go home, other than that don't go, or get involved.
I was watching these idiots running all over their football ground with their carrier bags full of cans of beer in one hand, while swilling one down their big gobs with the other.
They reminded me of little 5 year old's just let out of the classroom into the playground, running around with not really anywhere to go.

They do however all seem to be wearing the same uniform of dirty filthy jogging bottoms/ tops and smelly trainers that they have been drinking / eating and sleeping in for the last 6 months. May be they all need a short quick shower of a water cannon, and as an added bonus add some dye to that water and destroy their beloved joggers and trainers, they might think twice turning up again if they have to fork out for a new uniform for each riot.

Yet again, football is taking the headlines, over and above the real problems we have to deal with.

[teacake44]

13.54 The rioters are that thick Emmie they can't see that they are shooting themselves in the foot. Without the money men to buy these clubs, there would be no football, higher or lower clubs. Rioters will look for any excuse for a clash with the police ( in gangs) on their own they are all cowards.

[emmie]

i care little for football, it lost its soul years ago. I went to a few footie matches, one was to Arsenal, because my mum's partner was a fan, and another was to see Cardiff city? I don't care for the greed that's involved.

[teacake44]

I don't care for it to much either, I do however like to watch the world cup when it comes round. If you watch the video of these idiots the other day, they were just intent on damage to property and inflict damage on the police. They ran round the pitch with their arms out stretched like a child at a kids birthday party. Most people with young kids that want to take them to a football match ( as a family day) like they did years ago won't because they are afraid of what might kick off.

[Bobbisox1]

13-25, Ashley has put working practices way back, he's greedy just like those football owners you talk about in your OP,
No, I have owned a business, have you ever worked in retail?

[teacake44]

My OP is about scum rioters. I was self employed for 20 years, and years of retail experience, and dealing with the public, and employed some people, and you would be amazed how many of the latter tried to rip me off if they had half a chance.

[Bobbisox1]

teacake Retail and working in it now has to be the worst job ever, to take abuse regularly , to work for single rate Sundays and Bank Holidays for a minimum wage, I have friends working in retail right now, they tell me conditions are very bad and people like Mike Ashley and Philip Green are just two who've made it that way

[teacake44]

Hear say. The retail industry has been a stepping stone for years, or a drop out option, if you didn't do well at school, the same as factory work. Aldi or Lidle will not keep anyone who is not prepared to work, but if you do so, the pay is very good, other than that you are out the door. If one is happy to doss about in a dead end job and play on ones phone all day, tuff, take whats on offer or do without.

[Bobbisox1]

so are you actually dissing those who work in the retail sector? as having dead end jobs?

[teacake44]

Yes, they have always been dead end jobs, very little chance of better things. The retail and such like has always been used by some to make a little money while waiting for that better job, in turn the employer will use them.

[Bobbisox1]

dead end huh? how would you cope without those deadenders?

[Bobbisox1]

forget this, you can answer in a new thread as we wouldn't want yours being hijacked would we?

[teacake44]

The same as people coped with me when I was a deadender. I worked in dead end jobs before I even left school (13) to bring in extra income for a family of six without a farther. Been there done that, thats why I know about it. You had no choice to take what was on offer, but in later years thats what gave me the drive to do better, ( and I did)opposed to just moan about it.

[teacake44]

15.16, now your getting silly, thats normally your way when you know what I'm saying is correct, but you can't bring yourself to say I'm right.

[Bobbisox1]

No, because I don't think you are right TC

[teacake44]

You've just said in your new thread, its thankless, YES deadend job. But may be a way to better things, but thats all.

[ummmm]

Zero hours contracts are a god send for many people.

[Bobbisox1]

what about playing with their phone all day?
TC im sure many retail staff would take offence at this uncalled for slur but you wouldn't care anyway, would you?

[teacake44]

^^ dead right, if you have kids, thats why I say people use retail as a stepping stone, and employers use them if they can, within the law.

[Cloverjo]

I’ve never seen retail staff playing with their phones.

[teacake44]

What about playing with their phones all day? its right, they stand inside the shops they are working, but most times there's no customer, and they are playing with their phones, I see it day in day out. Even when you go up to some of the tills, they keep you waiting while they finish on their phone.