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Is it safe?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-110888 7/What-did-wrong-Parents-took-toddler-walk-fro zen-pond-deny-reckless.html
At times I have been among the first to criticise 'The Nanny State', Health & Safety' and all the ridiculous warnings we sometimes see on articles that we buy.
But I obviously have not taken into account some of the complete idiots around today, and yes these people are allowed to take charge of children.
At times I have been among the first to criticise 'The Nanny State', Health & Safety' and all the ridiculous warnings we sometimes see on articles that we buy.
But I obviously have not taken into account some of the complete idiots around today, and yes these people are allowed to take charge of children.
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People on ice in winter. Big deal.
Frost Fairs were regularly held on the frozen Thames in the past. More recently, when the Thames froze in 1963 there were plenty of people who walked across it.
http://www.thamesweb.co.uk/windsor/windsorhist ory/63images/63_freeze01.jpg
However, that was before the intrusive and nannying tabloids who think they can preach and blame and rule our lives.
Frost Fairs were regularly held on the frozen Thames in the past. More recently, when the Thames froze in 1963 there were plenty of people who walked across it.
http://www.thamesweb.co.uk/windsor/windsorhist ory/63images/63_freeze01.jpg
However, that was before the intrusive and nannying tabloids who think they can preach and blame and rule our lives.
So AOG should adults and children be allowed to swim in the sea? Obviously there are fatalities every year.
The only people who know whether the couple with child were sensible or not were there at the time. A passing motorist would have no idea of how thick the ice was and could not make a sensible judgement.
Obviously in this case, the couple and child were perfectly safe - that is either down to good luck or sensible precautions.
The only people who know whether the couple with child were sensible or not were there at the time. A passing motorist would have no idea of how thick the ice was and could not make a sensible judgement.
Obviously in this case, the couple and child were perfectly safe - that is either down to good luck or sensible precautions.
Amotheoldegit are you completely programmed to go with whatever you read in Daily Mail?
are you even going to go against your own principals to agree with the daily mail?
This was front page news? What the F**K is that all about?
hundreds dying in Gaza-the biggest recession for 60 years and they have 3 people walking as their front page?
Madness!
are you even going to go against your own principals to agree with the daily mail?
This was front page news? What the F**K is that all about?
hundreds dying in Gaza-the biggest recession for 60 years and they have 3 people walking as their front page?
Madness!
Just as I suspected you cannot advise complete idiots.
Anyway if your good luck fails "now enjoy yours swim, I say"
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oneeyedvic
Obviously in this case, the couple and child were perfectly safe - that is either down to good luck or sensible precautions.
So one risks one's family on the chance of 'Good Luck' prevailing.
What are these sensible precautions you mentioned, jumping up and down on the ice, and if you don't fall through then it is quite safe?
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Gromit
Still delving into the archives I see?
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The Sherman
Bending the truth yet, yet again.
Daily Mail front page headlines:
"LET'S PRINT MORE MONEY"
Care to click through the 10 of today's front pages?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/UK-Ne wspaper-Front-Pages-For-Thursday-January-8-200 9/Media-Gallery/200901115199225?lid=GALLERY_15 199225_UKNewspaperFrontPagesForThursday,Januar y8,2009&lpos=searchresults
Anyway if your good luck fails "now enjoy yours swim, I say"
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oneeyedvic
Obviously in this case, the couple and child were perfectly safe - that is either down to good luck or sensible precautions.
So one risks one's family on the chance of 'Good Luck' prevailing.
What are these sensible precautions you mentioned, jumping up and down on the ice, and if you don't fall through then it is quite safe?
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Gromit
Still delving into the archives I see?
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The Sherman
Bending the truth yet, yet again.
Daily Mail front page headlines:
"LET'S PRINT MORE MONEY"
Care to click through the 10 of today's front pages?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/UK-Ne wspaper-Front-Pages-For-Thursday-January-8-200 9/Media-Gallery/200901115199225?lid=GALLERY_15 199225_UKNewspaperFrontPagesForThursday,Januar y8,2009&lpos=searchresults
The couple featured are responsible parents - the father had walked all over the ice first and was satisfied it would hold; other people were also walking on the ice.
It's a boating lake and is not at all deep. It has not got above freezing for days, not even during the daytime, so that ice is not thawing. When I was a child whole families would skate on the ice, when it was cold enough to do so.
Far more dangerous, in my opinion, is the parent who allows the toddler or young child to walk along the pavement without reins.
Or the parent who, whilst crossing the road between parked cars, pushes the pram or pushchair out into the road while they are trying to see if any traffic is coming.
It's a boating lake and is not at all deep. It has not got above freezing for days, not even during the daytime, so that ice is not thawing. When I was a child whole families would skate on the ice, when it was cold enough to do so.
Far more dangerous, in my opinion, is the parent who allows the toddler or young child to walk along the pavement without reins.
Or the parent who, whilst crossing the road between parked cars, pushes the pram or pushchair out into the road while they are trying to see if any traffic is coming.
It has to be said that the actions of these parents was irresonsibile.
That said - when was the last time we had temperatures as low as this for extended periods?
I think there is a generation of young adults who have never seen a frozen lake before, and obey their natural instinct to walk on it - however foolish the more senior of us may know this to be.
Some media warnings would be appropriate - you cannot assume comon sense in people who have no experience of really cold temperatures for days on end.
That said - when was the last time we had temperatures as low as this for extended periods?
I think there is a generation of young adults who have never seen a frozen lake before, and obey their natural instinct to walk on it - however foolish the more senior of us may know this to be.
Some media warnings would be appropriate - you cannot assume comon sense in people who have no experience of really cold temperatures for days on end.
I was absolutely disgusted with the Daily Mail for this story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1 107145/Old-Man-About-The-House-Frail-70s-heart -throb-Richard-OSullivan-looks-unrecognisable. html
He is a known recluse, has been in ill health for years, yet the DM thinks it is fine to criticise his looks. This man wasn't courting publicity - he wasn't at a publicity event, just going about his daily business. How is that news?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1 107145/Old-Man-About-The-House-Frail-70s-heart -throb-Richard-OSullivan-looks-unrecognisable. html
He is a known recluse, has been in ill health for years, yet the DM thinks it is fine to criticise his looks. This man wasn't courting publicity - he wasn't at a publicity event, just going about his daily business. How is that news?
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There are 3000 deaths on the roads every year. Yet we quite happily load children and babies into cars without a thought to the dangers.
Yet when two adults take a child onto the ice on a frozen pond, it makes national healines. It is the same safety campaigners who tape off trees for fear of falling conkers or stop children from playing conkers unless they wear safety goggles and gloves. It is pathetic mollycoddling by zealous do-gooders.
Life includes some risks.
Yet when two adults take a child onto the ice on a frozen pond, it makes national healines. It is the same safety campaigners who tape off trees for fear of falling conkers or stop children from playing conkers unless they wear safety goggles and gloves. It is pathetic mollycoddling by zealous do-gooders.
Life includes some risks.
I think most people who drive are 'well aware of the dangers' and are suitably equipped with seat belts, baby seats and the such-like. I should also imagine that most people drive in sensible fashion despite accidents happening.
I see walking across an icy pond as a needless flirtation with danger. I'm sure if the amount of people who traverse up and down Britains roads everyday in cars decided to all walk across icy ponds then the annual death toll would be more than 3000. Its hardly a comparable statistic.
I see walking across an icy pond as a needless flirtation with danger. I'm sure if the amount of people who traverse up and down Britains roads everyday in cars decided to all walk across icy ponds then the annual death toll would be more than 3000. Its hardly a comparable statistic.
I think most people who drive are 'well aware of the dangers' and are suitably equipped with seat belts, baby seats and the such-like. I should also imagine that most people drive in sensible fashion despite accidents happening.
Really?
If you drive at the speed limit, at least 50% of the vehicles on the road will over take you.
Thousands of drivers drive too fast, use mobile phones, do not have the correct tyre pressure in their vehicles, have insufficient tread on the tyres etc.
When is the last time you checked your brakes, all your lights, the horn, the integrity of the seat belt, the pressure in your tyres etc?
These people tested the ice, found that it was sufficiently thick enough and then walked across it. It did not crack and therefore they were proved correct.
How many people this morning did all the above checks before setting off? If you said 10% of motorists, I would think you were exaggerating.
Really?
If you drive at the speed limit, at least 50% of the vehicles on the road will over take you.
Thousands of drivers drive too fast, use mobile phones, do not have the correct tyre pressure in their vehicles, have insufficient tread on the tyres etc.
When is the last time you checked your brakes, all your lights, the horn, the integrity of the seat belt, the pressure in your tyres etc?
These people tested the ice, found that it was sufficiently thick enough and then walked across it. It did not crack and therefore they were proved correct.
How many people this morning did all the above checks before setting off? If you said 10% of motorists, I would think you were exaggerating.
Hardly newsworthy! There must be plenty of parents doing the same! (Even though I wouldn't have dared walking my own children on frozen ice any deeper than a puddle)!
This is what I call dangerous & newsworthy:
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/j/ Jackson,_Michael/sq-michael-baby-balcony-cnn.j pg
This is what I call dangerous & newsworthy:
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/j/ Jackson,_Michael/sq-michael-baby-balcony-cnn.j pg
No not at all smudge, following the views of some.
Must get youngsters used to heights at an early age, there is a certain amount of danger in all things.
But then these are the type of person that will cross a busy road, where there is no crossing, instead of walking a few yards to the safe crossing.
Hope you didn't get your photo from the Daily Mail smudge, or they would have said it was not worthy of printing.
And it is only DM readers that are the nutters, according to them.
Must get youngsters used to heights at an early age, there is a certain amount of danger in all things.
But then these are the type of person that will cross a busy road, where there is no crossing, instead of walking a few yards to the safe crossing.
Hope you didn't get your photo from the Daily Mail smudge, or they would have said it was not worthy of printing.
And it is only DM readers that are the nutters, according to them.
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