Do You Believe In Anything Spiritual ?

[modeller]

I am an Atheist but I don't have anything that, I know of, in common with other Atheists . I know several non religionists who don't believe in any specific religion but nevertheless believe in the concept of a God.

[RATTER15]

There are places that I can go that are virtually untouched by civilisation of staggering beauty, I have often referred to these places as being very spiritual.
Only because I can almost feel almost at one with my surroundings and the magnificence I see before me, to me that is a spiritual experience. Nothing to do with spirits or Gods!

We all have different views of what spiritualism actually is.

[Old_Geezer]

And there we have the issue of the definition of a God. Ancient folk seemed to attribute the title to any powerful person, which is a foreign definition to me. Others seem to think it is an old guy in the sky, probably with a long beard, which seems unlikely, although I'll grant is a being God existed they could probably show themselves in any form. I think any explanation that can be given for the existence of anything qualifies for being God. It doesn't have to be a conscious individual (or individuals) making decisions.

[Old_Geezer]

In that sense it is the ambience, the quiet, the contemplative environment you are latching on to Ratter. I think a more "correct" form for the spiritual is a realm separate from the physical where those who have died find themselves, and entities that were never in the physical might exist.

[RATTER15]

OG, "In that sense it is the ambience, the quiet, the contemplative environment you are latching on to Ratter."

Exactly, but to me, I call it spiritual, Im in touch with Mother nature maybe?

[atalanta]

Mikey - wasn't it Dame Celia Molestrangler playing Fiona, who said and did
"many many times " ?

[mikey4444]

Atalanta.....Betty Marsden played many good characters on "Round the Horn"but Bea Clissold, Lady Counterblast was probably my favourite !

Many, many times !

Originally from Liverpool, she attended the Italia Conti Academy of Theatre Arts and ENSA.

From 1958 to 1968, Marsden was among the cast of the radio series Beyond Our Ken and Round the Horne, where she played all the female characters. Perhaps her most famous catchphrase was "many, many, many times", delivered in the dry, reedy tones of Bea Clissold, the ancient actress who was renowned for having given pleasure to many, particularly in "The Little Hut" on Shaftesbury Avenue.

[mikey4444]

Dame Celia Molestrangler and ageing juvenile Binkie Huckaback were a wonderful creation of the writers, in the form of a different take on Brief Encounter. In the following clip (at 18:15 ) they are enacting a scene from "Brief Ecstasy".

I have heard this and all the others sketches a 1000 times but it still makes me laugh afresh every time !

( still playing on Radio 4 extra )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJnj3LFtYSY

[Khandro]

modeller; I think "believing" and rationalising "God" is completely unimportant, one can think too much to the exclusion of feeling.
Try sitting quietly in an old parish church and say a prayer for someone you love and see how you [i feel [i]

[Khandro]

mikey; a valuable contribution to the OP

[HansUrbancka]

Good God. Is there really one.

Hans.

[Khandro]

Not only is the existence or not of God unprovable, a cat can be alive or dead simultaneously and you can't prove otherwise. (Even if you don't understand this is worth it for the cat clips);
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/05/27/schrodingers-cat-just-got-even-weirder-and-even-more-confusing/

[Old_Geezer]

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[Old_Geezer]

I'd like to watch them quantumly entangle both cats.

[mikey4444]

Khandro....12:51...what a nice thing to say...thanks !

[Khandro]

mikey; Don't mention it old fruit. I should have added, touché, in reply to yours about mine on the Channel 4 presenter. :0)

[mikey4444]

Yes, but in my post I didn't mention anyone having a "hook nose"

[cassa333]

Surely if you believe in the concept of God you are not an Atheist?

[Old_Geezer]

Not at all. 'Something' is different from a concept of 'something'.

[mibn2cweus]

I prefer to not use terms for which there is no objective standard for defining it, what one might call 'conceptual wild-cards' . . . excusing the inherent contradiction for the moment.

'Spiritual' as the term is typically used is intended to refer to some aspect of a kind of consciousness divorced from the means essential to the process of consciousness, the physical, functioning sentient being that produces consciousness.

Where the term 'spiritual' is applied explicitly to a state of mind possessed by a living sentient being, I have less of a problem attempting to discern its meaning.