Creation of Hell

[beso]

Who created Hell?

My understanding is that it is not in the Bible. However it features strongly in the Qu'ran where it appears to be explicitly created by Allah (the Merciful?) to forever punish those who fail to exercise their free will to worship Him.

There seem to be three possibilities for the origin.

1. The Catholics get it from the Qu'ran.
2. Early Catholics created it and Mohammed liked the idea.
3. Those who wrote the Bible neglected to include it when transcribing the rest of the old oral myths the books are based on.

[birdie1971]

Old_Geezer - “... Ever experienced rotting in the ground?...”

No. No one has. Because in order to do so you have to be dead. And if you're dead then all cognitive activity has ceased. Hence, you can't experience 'death' per say. It's really quite simple.

[birdie1971]

Old_Geezer - “... You hope...”

Actually it's you that hopes. I don't hope. When I die, I will simply cease to exist as a conscious entity. Your above statement is quite apposite given that we are discussing the possibility of Hell. Why do you think that, 'I hope'? Are you attempting the threaten me with an afterlife?

[Duncer]

birdie, even if you didn't cease to exist, wouldn't rotting and putrefying in the ground be infinitely prefereable to an everlasting "Hell" of flames and damnation desinggd to scare people into cowering belief and acquiescence?

[birdie1971]

Since you can't experience rotting nor putrefying in the ground, I'm not at liberty to say whether or not it's preferable to something else that you can't experience!

However, I don't agree with anything that is designed to scare people into cowering belief and acquiescence. That is why I am an atheist and proud to be so.

[Duncer]

Jeezus, the question wasn't literal. Much as I tend to agree.

[birdie1971]

Ha ha! Sorry, I didn't mean to be so serious. And yes, it is preferable to rot than to go to Hell if we're speaking in those terms :-)

[Duncer]

If you don't go to bed soon I'm going to send you to Hell.

[birdie1971]

Crikey! You sound like my wife! ;-)

[Duncer]

Wives - what wonderful things?

...................but do they really exist, or are they existential figments of our imagination?

[Wharton]

Duncer
Celtic Park?
Have you forgotten your visits to Firhill?

[Duncer]

Visits to Firhill equates with "indelibly printed on my mind".

Wharton - what are you doing up at this time?

[Duncer]

Eh????????????????????????????????

[birdie1971]

I see the spammer's back again. Sad.

[Duncer]

birdie, I'm fairly computer ignorant, but that seems like an automated message to me, or a sign from God?

[Wharton]

Duncer
Haven't a clue what I'm doing up at this time of night, but then again, I never have a clue what I'm doing at any time of the day or night. On the 'hellish' theme I hope The Blues can overcome those foreign devils (0-3), you never know.....and St.Johnstone had Tuffey on the bench (0-2), hell mend them.

[Duncer]

Fear for both sides mate. Followed live commentary from Cyprus and we were lucky to get nil - could've been 6-0 by all accounts.

Ex-Linfield no1 was in nets for St johnstone on Tuesday night, Alan Mannus - good keeper and all round nice guy.

Can't see then retrieving it though, much as I want them to.

Are you Hampden bound for any Olympic games?

[Wharton]

Duncer
Alan Mannus - I read that both goals he lost were deflections (Tuffey would have saved them) [Partick Thistle prejudice]. Really good of you to describe him as 'all round nice guy', I take it that you know him. As to the 'we were lucky to get nil', I think you've paid too many visits to Firhill, sounds like our sort of banter....and as for the Hampden Olympic games....I'll need to take that up with my carer....good 'talking' to you - Wharton.