Just a thought on the recent influx of theists.

dabees | 00:01 Tue 03rd Jan 2012 | Religion & Spirituality

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I have noticed the recent influx of theists here, not surprising considering the category but unusual all the same.

I float around many parts of the Internet that have a majority of Atheist users and have noticed many former Theists "coming out" to family and friends. Most of them seem to live in the USA and have faced a lot of persecution for their decision.

Some of them (younger atheists) have been kicked out of the family home and a few have even suffered death threats and condemnation to hell.

Question 1 to theists: Can you justify someone telling a child to leave the family home for not following your religion?

Q2: There are many religions and variations of those religions, what in your eyes makes yours the correct choice?

For everyone. I was wondering if the recent posts by theists are a way to combat this change and also if AB's change to a US server has facilitated this somehow?

What is God?

To Elderman, mymom and any other JW or JW like "organisation"

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boxtops

Has AB changed to a US server? Nobody told me!

jno

boxtops, watch out for posts that start "Hi, I'm Mary Lee and I'll be your server tonight..."

Children can be and are invited to leave the family home for a great variety of reasons; I can't see why religion shouldn't be one.

dabees

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It has been on a US based server for a while Boxtops, but they should have let you know. Just out of respect.

DTCwordfan

Thank you for your thoughtful comments, dabees and some grounds for challenge to the Theists as you call them,

Personally, I think that the Ed needs to consider some affirmative action against them as they risk devaluing a valuable thread. I have no objection to any Theist putting forward their own uestions and thoughts, but this incessant cutting and pasting from the JW Watchtower and its kind that we are now seeing....it ought to be stamped on

boxtops

Have you reported any, DT?

sandyRoe

Would the AB world, and R&S in particular, not be a much duller place without them? The cutters and pasters, I mean.

boxtops

PS Dabees - how do you know about the server..?

dabees

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You really believe that asking your child to leave your home for having a different religion is valid jno?

dabees

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A simple Whois check Boxtops, I'm sure someone like ABed or Chuck could confirm.

boxtops

That shocked me, too, jno - do you mean if they join the JWs, or if the parents become JWs and they don't?

MarkRae

> Has AB changed to a US server? Nobody told me!

Hasn't AB always been hosted in the US...?

DTCwordfan

yes, Elderman after an insult and I have contacted Ed and Chuckfickens over my concerns here..... I know it goes across free speech etc, but is what they are attempting to do free speech? - and then look at the sequence of events as a process, boxie.

It would be interesting to hear others views to feed into the Ed - and, ultimately, as we all know, it his decision, his site.

dabees

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I personally don't mind the Copy/Paste DT, it just shows how weak their argument really is.

DTCwordfan

I can't remember who mentioned it, but that the AB server was in the States was mentioned before - some three months ago?

DTCwordfan

becomes a yawn though dabees....and puts others off from joining in - look at some of the comments on the ancilliary threads.

jno

dabees and bopxtops, children can be thrown out for many reasons, as I said; if they're old enough to vote and to work, they're old enough to find a home of their own. It's up to the parents: their house, their rules.

I was never obliged to eject jno jnr, but a friend of mine has kids at home (in their 20s) who most certainly should be thrown out, for being idle layabouts, and I wouldn't throw up my hands in horror if she did. So why would I do so if it was because of religious disagreements?

(Obviously I'm talking about kids who are of age in one way or another, not 12-year-olds.)

jno

bopxtops, that's your livelier sister.

dabees

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If you want a yawn and controversy in equal measures, look here DT. http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/

jno

oh, and cutting and pasting is what the internet's for. The idea that people should only be allowed to put forward arguments they've come up with all by themselves is ever so sweet, though.