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While walking my dogs this morning beside the lake I fell into a reverie.
I imagined a time in the far distant future when most ABers were in Heaven. The atheists, though bemused, were as happy as anyone else to be there. But they soon moved to a remote corner of Elysium and began a debate.
'If we don't believe in this place how can we be here?'
Will you, if you're an atheist, be happy to admit you're wrong?
I imagined a time in the far distant future when most ABers were in Heaven. The atheists, though bemused, were as happy as anyone else to be there. But they soon moved to a remote corner of Elysium and began a debate.
'If we don't believe in this place how can we be here?'
Will you, if you're an atheist, be happy to admit you're wrong?
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Well a Wise man once said:
The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard is: "Fear the True God and keep his commandments. For this is the whole obligation of man. For the true God himself will bring every sort of work into the judgement in relation to every hidden thing, as to whether it is good or bad".
The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard is: "Fear the True God and keep his commandments. For this is the whole obligation of man. For the true God himself will bring every sort of work into the judgement in relation to every hidden thing, as to whether it is good or bad".
I cannot believe the absolute tosh that is being written here by sandyroe and elderman. You are all being too polite to them. When people talk absolute rubbish and make up quotations that don't even make sense then the rest of us must be clear that we think what they are saying is tosh.
We should keep in mind the sayings of a great modern saint:
"They would kill us in the name of their hallucinations. We must not hesitate to expose them as enemies of reason and purveyors of madness"
Chapter 2 lines 5-6
We should keep in mind the sayings of a great modern saint:
"They would kill us in the name of their hallucinations. We must not hesitate to expose them as enemies of reason and purveyors of madness"
Chapter 2 lines 5-6
With respect to Pascal's wager -
I wouldn't want to be standing next to any Christians on Judgment Day when they admit to trying to cash in on His only begotten Son's crucifiction and death. Nor would I expect God would be placated by any suggestion that the Bible (any of them) is in any way representative of His word.
I much prefer the unlikely possibility that I might actually end up in Hell for no good reason to that of finding myself kneeling before God knowing I'm about to get what I have coming to me.
I wouldn't want to be standing next to any Christians on Judgment Day when they admit to trying to cash in on His only begotten Son's crucifiction and death. Nor would I expect God would be placated by any suggestion that the Bible (any of them) is in any way representative of His word.
I much prefer the unlikely possibility that I might actually end up in Hell for no good reason to that of finding myself kneeling before God knowing I'm about to get what I have coming to me.
For many people happiness revolves around good health, material possessions, and pleasant companionship. Yet, there are people who have all of that but who are unhappy. For men and women dedicated to God, the Bible provides a concept of happiness that is quite different from the general view.(Matt 5:3)
Elderman - “Ironically, some people have stopped believing in God because of what they were taught in church. This was true of a man who was told that God burns the wicked in a fiery hell. The man just could not understand what kind of God would torment people in that way, so he became an atheist. Later, however, the man agreed to investigate the Bible... This sincere man continued his study of God’s Word and, in time, came to love the God of the Bible.”
This not a true story about a real person. It has clearly been written by a person or faith and is obviously an apocryphal tale. A child could write a more convincing story than the one you posted above.
Elderman continues with, “For many people happiness revolves around good health, material possessions, and pleasant companionship. Yet, there are people who have all of that but who are unhappy. For men and women dedicated to God, the Bible provides a concept of happiness that is quite different from the general view.”
There are indeed many people who have good health, wealth and a wide circle of good friends and who are still unhappy. This says nothing about belief in god of the lack of it. To suggest, as you do, that belief in god is somehow protection against depression or just basic unhappiness is naïve and simplistic.
Why do you persist in posting such drivel Elderman? By all means, express your opinion but by quoting chunks of scripture and obviously made-up stories you just make yourself look foolish and obsessed. Why don't you answer Naomi's question of 09:41 on Saturday, 19th November 2011? I challenge you to answer that question without copying and pasting text from elsewhere.
This not a true story about a real person. It has clearly been written by a person or faith and is obviously an apocryphal tale. A child could write a more convincing story than the one you posted above.
Elderman continues with, “For many people happiness revolves around good health, material possessions, and pleasant companionship. Yet, there are people who have all of that but who are unhappy. For men and women dedicated to God, the Bible provides a concept of happiness that is quite different from the general view.”
There are indeed many people who have good health, wealth and a wide circle of good friends and who are still unhappy. This says nothing about belief in god of the lack of it. To suggest, as you do, that belief in god is somehow protection against depression or just basic unhappiness is naïve and simplistic.
Why do you persist in posting such drivel Elderman? By all means, express your opinion but by quoting chunks of scripture and obviously made-up stories you just make yourself look foolish and obsessed. Why don't you answer Naomi's question of 09:41 on Saturday, 19th November 2011? I challenge you to answer that question without copying and pasting text from elsewhere.
Sandy -
If an atheist found himself in heaven then clearly he would have to admit that he was wrong. However, since god, heaven and any form of afterlife is utter nonsense the question itself is just hypothetical claptrap.
I would like to know how you would feel as a Christian, if you got to heaven and found out that you'd been worshipping the wrong god entirely. Wouldn't you feel completely cheated if the true god turned out to be Ra, the Egyptian sun god, and that all the stuff about Jesus, the crucifixion, the immaculate conception, etc. turned out to be a load of old twaddle? And since you'd been worshipping the 'wrong' god and not following his rules and regulations, you were then cast down into the 'pit'... you'd be pretty peeved I think!
Does it ever cross your mind that you may have been completely hoodwinked and if so, does that bother or frighten you?
If an atheist found himself in heaven then clearly he would have to admit that he was wrong. However, since god, heaven and any form of afterlife is utter nonsense the question itself is just hypothetical claptrap.
I would like to know how you would feel as a Christian, if you got to heaven and found out that you'd been worshipping the wrong god entirely. Wouldn't you feel completely cheated if the true god turned out to be Ra, the Egyptian sun god, and that all the stuff about Jesus, the crucifixion, the immaculate conception, etc. turned out to be a load of old twaddle? And since you'd been worshipping the 'wrong' god and not following his rules and regulations, you were then cast down into the 'pit'... you'd be pretty peeved I think!
Does it ever cross your mind that you may have been completely hoodwinked and if so, does that bother or frighten you?