Have You Ever Been Tricked By Someone Claiming To Be Able To Contact The Dead?

[naomi24]

Driving home today I was listening to Jeremy Vine interviewing A J West about his new book, 'The Spirit Engineer', which examines, among other things, the reality or otherwise of the spirit world and the trickery used by charlatans to convince people that they are actually contacting the dearly departed. Mr West threw out a couple of 'cold' readings and asked listeners to phone in if they thought anything he said referred to them personally. I arrived home before anyone called so I've no idea of the outcome. Interesting nonetheless.

So … have you ever been tricked by a trickster - and when did you realise you had?

https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-spirit-engineer/a-j-west/9780715654330

[AuntPG]

TTT so you can't explain it then? Thats fine because some things are inexplicable. Your mind is probably so closed you will never experience anything out of the ordinary.

[youngmafbog]

Snake oil or a bridge anyone?

[ToraToraTora]

remember the famous Horizon(BBC) homeopathy test? They had the $1m ready to pay out of they could demonstrate any benefits beyond simple chance. The Homeopaths agreed to the tests first. The whole lot was shown to be charlatanry. Same with the water diviners. busted!

[AuntPG]

TTT just seen your reply after I answered. Please tell me who was tricking me in an empty house, the nearest neighbour at least one mile away?

People who make a living out of this sort of thing are magicians and cold readers. That does not mean that true psychic powers don't exist.

[AuntPG]

TTT you are just stirring now because I've treated animals with Homeopathic drugs and it works. They didn't know what they were getting, so it was not 'all in their heads' lol!

[AuntPG]

......and water divining works because the Water companies use it to find hidden water pipes lol!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-42070719

[ToraToraTora]

APG: "TTT so you can't explain it then?" - of course I can't any more than I can explain most of the card tricks or how dynamo can make Tower Bridge disappear but I know it's trick! derrr!

[burlyshirley]

I encountered someone by chance a long time ago back in the 70's. I was a young woman and I used to do voluntary work at the local RSPCA a couple of nights a week after work. One night I went in and there was a very, very sick little kitten there who I was extremely worried about and I took her into the office with me to keep an eye on her. She was sicking up worms, poor little mite. After a while another volunteer came in with her hubby, who I didn't know. I asked them to keep an eye on the sick kitten for me while I went out back to clean out the rabbit hutches and feed the rabbits. After a time I went back in, looking for the sick kitten and all I saw was a mad, happy little kittie zooming around and playing like kittens do. I said 'where's the kitten, where's the sick kitten?' Neither of them looked at me, but just sat looking at the playful puss, smiling ! It was in fact the sick kitten that was zooming around, seemingly 100% better ! Apparently, the girl's hubby was a 'faith healer' as he called himself and he had taken the puss in his hands and 'healed' it and there was the proof in front of me ! A while later my elderly dog was very ill with liver problems and the vet wasn't very hopeful, he commented on how white his gums were. In my grief, I asked for this man who helped the kitten to come and see my dog. I left him alone with my dog and afterwards he told me that my dog would be fine and I needn't worry. I could see an immediate difference in my dog and took him back to the vet for a checkup. The first thing the vet did was to check his gums and I heard him in an aside to himself saying 'his gums are pink again' as if he couldn't believe it. I didn't tell him about the faith healer ! My lovely dog recovered and had another year of life, dying at 14 years old. The faith healer gave me another wonderful year with my dog, who was at death's door with liver disease.

He wasn't a charlatan, he was a wonderful young man, who comforted me once again when my dog died and told me some lovely things. I lost touch with him over the years, but I often think of him and especially that very sick little kitten.

I know this isn't the same thing as contacting the dead, just an amazing thing that actually happened and I wanted to re-live it on here.

[ToraToraTora]

"......and water divining works because the Water companies use it to find hidden water pipes lol! " - well they never picked up the $1m for a simple test. I suggest they are very knowledgable about geography etc, not using a twig!

[AuntPG]

How can me getting a message in an empty house be a trick? What would be the purpose of the trick? Basically, you are saying it never happened, well I know it did and I know lots of things happen that we have no explanation for.

[youngmafbog]

TTT, just like religion you will never change the mind of the believer and just like religion if someone is happy with the delusion then thats fine by me I'm happy to just let them get oin with it.

[AuntPG]

BurleyShirley Thats a wonderful story. Some people have powers in their hands, or other powers that we have yet to discover.

[AuntPG]

TTT what are you mumbling on about $1m? Water divining has been used for years to find underground sources of water, Copper wires are usually used, not twigs BTW.

[ToraToraTora]

this always happens when we have this discussion people like jno think they are giving me all the data, I guarantee jno you are not. The problem is you want to believe in these "powers" but believe me it's all a trick.

[ToraToraTora]

shirley, if this bloke can heal pets like that then he'd be a gazillionaire and there'd be no vets.

[Mamyalynne]

YMB, and in the self same way some people's minds remain firmly closed to the power of nature and spiritual energy - there is really no point in trying to broaden their outlook.

[jno]

strange how "rational" people are so quick to deny others' experiences rather than try to explain them.

[burlyshirley]

Thanks APG. I've experienced several things since then over the years. My mind is VERY open.

[naomi24]

TTT at 17.11. That’s right but it follows that some of the conditions the society wanted to impose could not be met.

[ToraToraTora]

APG: "TTT what are you mumbling on about $1m? " - as I said above, there was $1m to be picked up for a simple test. No water diviner ever collected the cash, or even tried the test because they also know it's bowlocks.