Brexit.......what Now In Simple Terms

[pumpjack]

its a whole bloody big mess
i try hard never to watch any news for ages now.

but in simple terms, what does all this *** mean for us all now

[fiction-factory]

It's probably going to drag on for a year or so until we eventually just say "forget it, we'll stay'

[david small]

When up a creek without a paddle. Make a new paddle.
We’ll be shafted and told it’s good for us.

[Jackdaw33]

We sit tight and wait for Oct. 31, then it will be all done and dusted.

[Jordyboy9]

35 days to go I wonder if it will be done and dusted,
It’s been nothing but a farce from day one,
Sheer incompetence from our elected MPs,
It’s a pity we couldn’t have a complete clear out.

[fiction-factory]

>We sit tight and wait for Oct. 31, then it will be all done and dusted.

Depends on whether Boris asks for the extension- I'm not sure how he avoid doing that - and whether the EU accepts or rejects the request

[ichkeria]

Indeed.
He’s going to obey the law.
He’s also going to have Brexit Deal or no deal.
In between, he spoke of doing a deal that would be “nothing like” Theresa May’s
None of that computes.
The public cannot agree on Brexit and neither can parliament. It’s as simple as that. Parliament is being asked to do something a lot more difficult than what was asked of the public in that referendum. And an election will only help in this if it leads to one party having an overall majority. It is highly likely if there was an election we would not get that.
A “Brexit” election is a very bad idea.

[Jackdaw33]

//And an election will only help in this if it leads to one party having an overall majority. It is highly likely if there was an election we would not get that.\\

I beg to differ. Boris will romp home.

[ichkeria]

He may do but it is more than likely he would not.
Especially if an election occurs after Oct 31 and we are still in the EU.
He’s big on elections now, but why didn’t he call one when he took office? His sudden enthusiasm for one only seemed to take off when Parliament was passing the Benn Bill.

[Jackdaw33]

He can't call one by virtue of the FTPA 2011.

[Old_Geezer]

I think his enthusiasm rose when it became clear that parliament opposition was defining what government and in particular he as MP had to do against it's, and his will. When government isn't in control it is an unacceptable situation, a rump parliament as it was described yesterday. And when some idiots have passed the fixed term act and one can't even get a chance to reset parliament because one needs an opposition, that finds itself in control of proceedings as required by them, to vote for an election, then there's not even a way out.

As for what it all means, difficult to say. Depends on which of Boris' goals become viable, and whether the opposition stay trying to govern from the opposition benches, or call it a day and take it to the people as should have already occurred. I suspect the latter unlikely while they still have hopes of denying the people delivery of their democratic decision.

[Old_Geezer]

...as PM...

[THECORBYLOON]

He could have put a bill through Parliament repealing the Fixed- Terms Parliament Act (FTPA) or allowing an election in spite of the FTPA.

[Old_Geezer]

He wouldn't have seen it as a need or priority until circumstances pointed out the folly of it. Hopefully a future government will sort it. Bit late for now though.

[ichkeria]

Not “call” one : but put the Bill before parliament as he tried to do recently.
And it would almost certainly have received the necessary votes.

[THECORBYLOON]

"We sit tight and wait for Oct. 31, then it will be all done and dusted."

Really?

[Old_Geezer]

It would if Boris either a) comes back with a decent deal or b) decides to remain in position and not opt to back down on his not asking for an extension, or c) asks for an extension and gets a refusal. Unsure which is most likely. Or maybe there are other options too.

[THECORBYLOON]

The PM has repeatedly said that in the event of no agreement on or before 31.10.19, he will not ask for an extension.

It would be interesting to know what legal advice he has received from the Attorney General regarding this plan to ignore the law.

[hereIam]

I've said this before, we'll never leave. A huge farce almost from day one. I'm adamant that I'll never vote again, none of our MP's are to be trusted after this malarkey ..

[Old_Geezer]

Perhaps he should take it through the courts to see if it's unlawful. After all we are under the rule of law so every political decision should be checked out.

[ToraToraTora]

we leave on 31st Oct, end of.