Wy Do You Hate Vegans? Vegan Here... Ask Me Anything :)

[divegirl]

I love this site... have been a member for far too long lol

I rarely post but am always here and as a vegan I am basically gobsmacked at times at peoples attitude towards my lifestyle choice and yes it is a choice. As is yours.

BUT [from the Vegan Society]

Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.

At 47 years of age [50 this year] I adopted the Vegan lifestyle because I became aware of the apathy and my own jaded sense of what is right and wrong. Right to kill a pig... but not a dog? blah blah blah

Have you ever watched any documentaries concerning veganism? Earthlings? Cowspiracy? What the health?

Do you know what cognitive dissonance is?

I'm not posting this to be confrontational, I am truley interested in what people think :)

Lisa x

[anneasquith]

Admiration for divegirl, I do like anyone who( stands up ) for their beliefs .

[Baldric]

Agreed anne, but it should be possible to do that without preaching.

[hereIam]

I agree with you 100% aa. And I also agree with a lot of what divegirl says. I am now seriously thinking of overhauling my diet. I couldn't become a vegan though, but being a vegetarian is an option as I've done it before. The only thing I will really miss is sausages (I love them) !

[vulcan42]

A vegan asks why do you hate us. The majority of replies are we don't hate you but we don't like being preached to. So, how do the vegans reply? with a damn good bit of preaching!

[bainbrig]

Typical AB response - to confuse a cogent argument with preaching...

[dannyk13]

Nothing against vegans, but it is not for me, I am quite happy being an omnivore.

[pastafreak]

Instead of taking what often appears to be the moral high ground, and viewing those who choose to eat meat as evil and uncaring...we aren't...really...why not campaign for better farming practices, and more ethical treatment of animals?
Trying to convert the word to your beliefs will never work, Man is by nature an omnivore. There are no traditional cultures...to my knowledge...that eat a vegan diet. Humans eat what is available ...plants, fish, animals, insects. We in the western world probably eat too much meat, that can be changed. But don't ever expect us to eat none.
So put your energies into the improvement of the treatment of those animals you cry over. They are a necessary part of this planet's biodiversity and part of our survival.

[naomi24]

Divegirl, //No. You're eating a by product of a hen that has been kept in a cage not much bigger than she is for her entire miserable life.//

Does it not suit you to read posts that don’t concur with your argument?

[CallieB]

Divegirl, your research badly needs updating. An EU ban on battery cages came in to effect on 1 January 2012, from when egg producers are required to provide hens with larger and more comfortable cages, which include nesting and scratching areas that allow more natural behaviour. Still not an ideal solution and I will never buy commercial eggs anyway, but do get your facts correct if you want people to take your arguments seriously.

[CallieB]

Bainbrig, a typical vegetarians response to being asked to explain why they support the most cruelest of Agricultural industries by drinking cows milk and eating cheese.

[Togo]

Vegans ehh……..always beefing about something.

[Togo]

If you are a vegan, and transitioning, and cycle everywhere, what do you tell people first about yourself?

[luciustool]

//If you are a vegan, and transitioning, and cycle everywhere, what do you tell people first about yourself?//

That you've just adopted a Romanian three legged dog that thinks its a cat?

[calmck]

I don’t hate vegans. I dislike being told what I should or should not eat and what my lifestyle should be regarding animal products. I will eat what I like and vegans should shut their mouths and eat what they want

[New Judge]

I don’t particularly care what other people eat or what they don’t. It’s of no concern or interest to me. However, what I don’t like is being branded as a criminal or an uncaring bar steward when I eat what I choose. More than that, as I recently explained in another thread, I dislike the practice that vegetarian and vegan food providers undertake by calling vegetables by names that sound like meat and animal produce (vegetarian “sausages”, soya “milk”, cauliflower “steak” and so on). If you sell vegetables then call them vegetables. Think up another name for a slice of baked cauliflower (or better still, just call it baked cauliflower - I'm sure it will sell just as well). Don’t call liquids that are made from plants “milk”.

Even worse than that, as the vegan bandwagon gathers pace, is the idea that everywhere must provide vegan alternatives for what is a small minority of the population. Some outlets now even prioritise vegan alternatives over omnivorous produce. One day last week there was an item in the press that explained that some store or other which used to provide a meat and vegan alternative of one of their products (can’t remember the details) were withdrawing the meat version. Their reasoning was that they didn’t want to risk vegans “who might be in a hurry” picking the wrong alternative. So basically, it doesn’t matter if I, who might also be in a hurry, am now forced to have the wrong product just so long as vegans don’t.

By all means adopt a vegan lifestyle if that’s what floats your boat (and make sure you get your vitamin B12 from somewhere). I won’t because I enjoy a rare fillet steak too much. But I don’t expect the arrangements I outlined above to prevail and inconvenience the majority of the population.

[tiggerblue10]

I've been eating a meat and dairy free, plant based diet over the last 2 weeks. I have tried an tested various meat alternative product and most seem quite unpalatable although the vegan mayo and dairy free chocolate seem to be the best so far.

In order to benefit more from this I need to learn to start cooking dishes from scratch but trying to find the time is a large part of the problem.

I'm trying this for a month to see how I get on.

[mushroom25]

//Some outlets now even prioritise vegan alternatives over omnivorous produce.//

…..like train companies whose on-board catering is provided by trolleys. until recently the only food they sold was crisps and kit-kats, but they now all sell a vegan breakfast or lunch option. so now for the first time in ages you can buy real food on these trains - but only if it's vegan.

[CallieB]

Vegan food is probably better for you than crisps and kitkats! When I travel I always go for the Vegetarian Option on a flight as its much nicer than the usual carp they dish up. Same at functions.

[New Judge]

"Vegan food is probably better for you than crisps and kitkats!"

Which is neither here nor there. It seems strange that railway catering succumbs to minority demands but cannot cater properly for the majority. Mind you, they are scarcely alone in that respect.

[murraymints]

NOTE TO SELF: Soya milk /cream does not beat well...that's the strawberry mousse off tonight !