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Could This Be One Reason For Poor White Children's Lack Of Achievement?
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/// It said some schools “felt that the pressure on schools to establish a curriculum which is relevant to a diverse range of pupils has possibly marginalised white pupils”. ///
/// One head teacher told researchers: “The curriculum that has been on offer has not been meeting the needs of white British pupils. There has been much emphasis in recent years on elements of black history and a celebration of cultural days such as ‘Portuguese day’. There has been nothing for the British culture. ///
/// It said some schools “felt that the pressure on schools to establish a curriculum which is relevant to a diverse range of pupils has possibly marginalised white pupils”. ///
/// One head teacher told researchers: “The curriculum that has been on offer has not been meeting the needs of white British pupils. There has been much emphasis in recent years on elements of black history and a celebration of cultural days such as ‘Portuguese day’. There has been nothing for the British culture. ///
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No, of course not. The reason that most children don't do well at school is because they come from backgrounds and homes where education is not encouraged or valued. I first went to school at aged 5 in September 1958 and my parents made sure I had the rudiments of reading before I went. We were just ordinary working class Londoners, and weren't in the least well off, but the Library was free and we made good use of it.
I am told by primary school teachers that they can expect kids to arrive for their first day in school, who are not even toilet trained, let alone literate.
Is it any wonder that kids from these kinds of homes don't thrive at school, or later in life for that matter.
I am told by primary school teachers that they can expect kids to arrive for their first day in school, who are not even toilet trained, let alone literate.
Is it any wonder that kids from these kinds of homes don't thrive at school, or later in life for that matter.
Good question corby ! This is just another case of having a xenophobic rant, as per usual.
If we really have so many kids in Britain, for whom English is not their first language, why isn't it these kids that are behind in school ? The owners of my local village Chinese takeaway, have 5 children, all born here, who speak 3 languages, Cantonese, English and Welsh and all 5 are the brightest sparks in school.
If we really have so many kids in Britain, for whom English is not their first language, why isn't it these kids that are behind in school ? The owners of my local village Chinese takeaway, have 5 children, all born here, who speak 3 languages, Cantonese, English and Welsh and all 5 are the brightest sparks in school.
mikey4444
/// Good question corby ! This is just another case of having a xenophobic rant, as per usual. ///
Are yes if someone comes up with a possible answer which dares to mention ethnic minorities might be the cause, out come the usual cries of racism or in this case 'xenophobic rants' so as to try and put an end to such accusations.
This is what is reported not by me, but by those who are knowledgeable of the problem.
/// It said some schools “felt that the pressure on schools to establish a curriculum which is relevant to a diverse range of pupils has possibly marginalised white pupils”. ///
Incidentally mikey, how many ethnic minority pupils were there in your school in September 1958?
/// Good question corby ! This is just another case of having a xenophobic rant, as per usual. ///
Are yes if someone comes up with a possible answer which dares to mention ethnic minorities might be the cause, out come the usual cries of racism or in this case 'xenophobic rants' so as to try and put an end to such accusations.
This is what is reported not by me, but by those who are knowledgeable of the problem.
/// It said some schools “felt that the pressure on schools to establish a curriculum which is relevant to a diverse range of pupils has possibly marginalised white pupils”. ///
Incidentally mikey, how many ethnic minority pupils were there in your school in September 1958?
THECORBYLOON
/// Considering that ANOTHEOLGIT thinks too many things are biased toward black folk and Muslims, ///
Are you black or Asian CORBYLOON because you seem to have a certain chip on your shoulder regarding the colour of a person's skin?
This is about all ethnic minorities which includes all those who are not predominately white British, for example Eastern Europeans.
/// Researchers called on the Department for Education to develop a "curriculum that treats white British identity in the same way as ethnic minorities”. ///
/// Head teachers told how they ran numerous projects such as Black History Month and “cultural days” to raise awareness of countries such as Portugal, Poland and Jamaica. ///
/// Considering that ANOTHEOLGIT thinks too many things are biased toward black folk and Muslims, ///
Are you black or Asian CORBYLOON because you seem to have a certain chip on your shoulder regarding the colour of a person's skin?
This is about all ethnic minorities which includes all those who are not predominately white British, for example Eastern Europeans.
/// Researchers called on the Department for Education to develop a "curriculum that treats white British identity in the same way as ethnic minorities”. ///
/// Head teachers told how they ran numerous projects such as Black History Month and “cultural days” to raise awareness of countries such as Portugal, Poland and Jamaica. ///
AOG..there were two Chinese sisters, one in my class and an older one. There was a Afro-Caribbean boy called Neil, who was my best friend and there was a young Polish boy, with a surname beginning with Z, the son of a Polish airman, who stayed on after the War.
There were numerous Irish kids, some born in Ireland and some born here...well it was a Catholic School in Kilburn, North London after all.
We had a favourite Teacher, called Miss Wilkinson, who was what I think is called an Anglo-Indian. Her Dad was a British soldier who served in India, and her Mum a local Indian girl. She took us to the famous Robert Mayer children concerts, in the Albert Hall. Lovely lady who first introduced me to serious classical music.
There were other "coloured" Teachers, mostly Franciscan Fathers from India. And of course, lots of Irish Nuns.
I have no recall of any racism in my school. In fact Neil was always a popular lad as he was good at football and to be asked to play in his Team at playtime, was a much regarded honour.
So, quite a mini United Nations ! Hope that answers your question AOG...its an awfully long time ago.
There were numerous Irish kids, some born in Ireland and some born here...well it was a Catholic School in Kilburn, North London after all.
We had a favourite Teacher, called Miss Wilkinson, who was what I think is called an Anglo-Indian. Her Dad was a British soldier who served in India, and her Mum a local Indian girl. She took us to the famous Robert Mayer children concerts, in the Albert Hall. Lovely lady who first introduced me to serious classical music.
There were other "coloured" Teachers, mostly Franciscan Fathers from India. And of course, lots of Irish Nuns.
I have no recall of any racism in my school. In fact Neil was always a popular lad as he was good at football and to be asked to play in his Team at playtime, was a much regarded honour.
So, quite a mini United Nations ! Hope that answers your question AOG...its an awfully long time ago.
AOG...not quite sure what is wrong with this ? ::::
"Head teachers told how they ran numerous projects such as Black History Month and “cultural days” to raise awareness of countries such as Portugal, Poland and Jamaica "
Starone has mentioned Bristol. Bristol has a long and important Black history, being a major slave port. Shouldn't all our children learn about this, not just the black ones ? Isn't the process of learning about each other key to kids today not growing up with racist views ?
"Head teachers told how they ran numerous projects such as Black History Month and “cultural days” to raise awareness of countries such as Portugal, Poland and Jamaica "
Starone has mentioned Bristol. Bristol has a long and important Black history, being a major slave port. Shouldn't all our children learn about this, not just the black ones ? Isn't the process of learning about each other key to kids today not growing up with racist views ?
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I don't believe for one minute that kids are not being taught British history at school today. I have checked with nieces and nephews before, and they are still being taught about Henry and his six wives, Julius Caesar, Magna Carta, etc etc.
Anyway we have 10,000's of schools in Britain today...they can't all be overrun by black kids, brown kids and Eastern European kids surely ?
Anyway we have 10,000's of schools in Britain today...they can't all be overrun by black kids, brown kids and Eastern European kids surely ?
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It's got to be poor parenting. If the curriculum is relevant to a diverse range of pupils, then each cohort would only be gaining a small amount of information on their own culture, they too would be learning about the culture of the others, so why can they then still outshine the white pupils?
Having said that, they all are living in the UK, so the greatest emphasis should be on British culture.
Having said that, they all are living in the UK, so the greatest emphasis should be on British culture.
You make common sense khandro...thanks.
And DB...if these kids had good parenting, rather than poor parenting, then we wouldn't have a problem. Its the parenting that counts. If my Mum and Dad could make sure I had my young brothers had the fundamentals of reading before I went to school, so can every other parent, especially the ones who have English as their first language.
And DB...if these kids had good parenting, rather than poor parenting, then we wouldn't have a problem. Its the parenting that counts. If my Mum and Dad could make sure I had my young brothers had the fundamentals of reading before I went to school, so can every other parent, especially the ones who have English as their first language.
I visit poorer and disadvantaged people in their own homes for a living, and I come across this scenario all too often ::: Huge leather sofas, huge TV's nut no books or book cases to be seen...speaks volumes. Books are free at every Library, if you still have one open that is. It doesn't cost a bean to give your kids a head start, and books are at the very heart of it.
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"Anyway we have 10,000's of schools in Britain today...they can't all be overrun by black kids, brown kids and Eastern European kids surely ?"
That may be so in The Valleys, Mikey. However, take a look at the ethnic make up of pupils in some inner London schools and in some other cities and larger towns. You will find huge numbers of schools where white English children are very much an endangered species, where English is a secondary tongue (if it is spoken at all) for a majority of the pupils and where numerous "classroom assistants" are required simply to provide translation facilities.
I've seen some of this at first hand. I don't think people realise what a parlous state the education system is in in some parts of the country. Spending a bit of time celebrating "Portuguese Day" or any other such nonsense is neither here nor there. Teachers are struggling to impart even the simplest of principles to their pupils simply because the majority of the class cannot understand a word they are saying. It is true many English parents send their children to school totally unprepared. But many don't. They want their children to receive a decent education and in some parts of the country they do not have a chance.
That may be so in The Valleys, Mikey. However, take a look at the ethnic make up of pupils in some inner London schools and in some other cities and larger towns. You will find huge numbers of schools where white English children are very much an endangered species, where English is a secondary tongue (if it is spoken at all) for a majority of the pupils and where numerous "classroom assistants" are required simply to provide translation facilities.
I've seen some of this at first hand. I don't think people realise what a parlous state the education system is in in some parts of the country. Spending a bit of time celebrating "Portuguese Day" or any other such nonsense is neither here nor there. Teachers are struggling to impart even the simplest of principles to their pupils simply because the majority of the class cannot understand a word they are saying. It is true many English parents send their children to school totally unprepared. But many don't. They want their children to receive a decent education and in some parts of the country they do not have a chance.
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