Farage To Visit Scotland Today !

[mikey4444]

Another couple of percentage points for the YES camp I suppose.

Lets hope it a little safer for him today. The last time he was north of the border, he had to take refuge in a Pub, which, being Farage can't have been too much of a trial but he then had to be rescued by the Police ! Tough call for the Plods...do they rescue him again, or let him be pelted with buckets loads of porridge !

[naomi24]

That says more about the base mentality of his audience than it says about him.

[Old_Geezer]

He must be going to encourage a 'yes' vote, after all, it's the quickest way out of the EU for the northern UK lot.

[Obiter]

You really have a downer on Mr. Farage, don't you. Personally I think he's like a breath of fresh air as he seems to have taken all the pomposity, hypocrisy and cant out of politics.

[ludwig]

Farage's whole problem with the EU is that it is a remote and foreign bureacracy imposing legislation on Britain that prevents us governing our own affairs and controlling our own resources.

Considering this is basically the same thing behind the Scottish independence movement I don't understand how he thinks he can argue against it with any credibility.

[mikey4444]

OG...I heard Farage being interviewed on the Today Program this morning, and he making a case that a YES vote would push Scotland closer to Europe. Not quite sure what he is on about here, although with Farage that is not unusual. So as far as Farage is concerned, its nothing to do with the breakup of the UK...its just about Europe, as usual, the place where he earns shedloads of money every year.

To answer Obiter, Farage is one giant hypocrite, and I agree with dave when he described UKIP as "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists".

[Old_Geezer]

Maybe because the number of Scots who ended up running the show at Westminster over the years ? Your 'representatives' in the EU are more of a fop. None reach a position where they introduce legislation. Merely discuss the next lot imposed and about to be passed through.

[Old_Geezer]

I expect he knows that a small country isn't going to have the advantages of being in a larger group, which is why the spilt is not a great idea overall. So if Scotland exit from the UK they'll most likely feel the need to get in with the EU instead.

[mikey4444]

OG...that is precisely what Farage was blabbering on about this morning !
But Scotland will leave the EU the day it gains independence, and will have re-apply to join. Where will the money come from for the annual Membership fees ? The IMF presumably !

[naomi24]

//he making a case that a YES vote would push Scotland closer to Europe. Not quite sure what he is on about here,//

He’s saying that a ‘yes’ vote would push Scotland closer to Europe, and therefore wouldn’t be in the best interests of those who think we’d all be better off out of Europe.

[Obiter]

As long as it doesn't come from the English Treasury I really couldn't give a ****.

[Hopkirk]

We could end up with Scotland in the EU, and us southerners voting to leave.

[Old_Geezer]

Do all countries pay in more than they get out, or is it just the better off ones ? Wondering if it would be seen as a benefit overall, I suspect if one can put up with being dictated to, that may be the case.

As a parting comment to the thread, what one needs is balance of course. A single island or group of them is likely to have a similar culture and be of a size one can relate to as a single unit and one people: so it makes sense for it to be a single sovereign nation and reap the benefits of union. Multiple cultures over a continental sized area is more difficult to generate a, 'we are one' feeling about and a certain amount of resentment occurs when one different area seems to have a say on how another will live. This is especially true if the large grouping is undemocratic. Just clarifying why I think the UK is a good thing and the EU not.

[mikey4444]

A possibility Hopkirk perhaps but not very likely in the short-to-medium term We will need a Party in power in Westminster that will give us a referendum before that happens and that doesn't look very probably yet. Labour still well ahead in the Polls again.

[naomi24]

//Labour still well ahead in the Polls again. //

... but not offering you what you say we need - a referendum.

[Booldawg]

'Do all countries pay in more than they get out, or is it just the better off ones ? Wondering if it would be seen as a benefit overall, I suspect if one can put up with being dictated to, that may be the case.'

Being in the EU is a bit like going into business with a reckless, broke distant cousin. You have everything to lose, they have everything to gain.

[Obiter]

If Mikey wants out of the EU, then he's answered his own question. Vote Tory!

[mikey4444]

I can assure everyone that I, like the majority of British people, don't want us to leave the EU. I make no apologies for that stance.

[Obiter]

...like the majority of the British people? Come on, yer 'avin' a larff!

[naomi24]

Mikey, I, like the majority of British people, don't want us to leave the EU

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/21/eu-referendum-majority-leave-opinium-observer-poll

Which poll are you looking at - or are you dizzily spinning again?

[bazwillrun]

"I can assure everyone that I, like the majority of British people, don't want us to leave the EU."

they say its good to start the day with a good laugh...well there it is.

The deluded and obsessed mikey has done it again...and just remind us, who was it who headed a post in the past couple of days with something about the judge droning on...well youd know all about droning on wouldnt you