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catsrcool | 12:35 Thu 11th Aug 2011 | Crosswords
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17 Dn See Scottish historian in the auditorium (8) ????i?l? 19 Dn Turbulent and ready to quarrel when denied right (8) ??c??o?e
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Thank you plautus 19 Dn is in factious I had an incorrect crossing letter
I quite like 17 down: See (the bishopric of Carlisle) sounding like (in the auditorium) Carlyle (Scottish historian). Good clue.

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