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Does this case encourage integration?
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Here we have yet another savage murder, not black on black as usual this time, but the cowardly killing of a young white boy who was unfortunate to became the friend of a black gang member.
/// Nicholas, the only white boy involved in the tragedy, was a friend of a member of “SG’s” rivals, the “Black Mafia”, the court heard. The trial continues.///
Here we have yet another savage murder, not black on black as usual this time, but the cowardly killing of a young white boy who was unfortunate to became the friend of a black gang member.
/// Nicholas, the only white boy involved in the tragedy, was a friend of a member of “SG’s” rivals, the “Black Mafia”, the court heard. The trial continues.///
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I note that you don't use the Mail to support your case this time.
Could it be the fact that they reported that he had gone thier of hs own violition in support of his gang only to find they were gone.
Colour is irrelevant he was a member of a gang and who knows what he had been up to previously.
You cannot, ever, condone murder, however if he had not tried to be complicit in gang activity he would, probably, be alive.
No doubt he was going to be a great proffessional, kind to his mum and a"lovely boy"
Could it be the fact that they reported that he had gone thier of hs own violition in support of his gang only to find they were gone.
Colour is irrelevant he was a member of a gang and who knows what he had been up to previously.
You cannot, ever, condone murder, however if he had not tried to be complicit in gang activity he would, probably, be alive.
No doubt he was going to be a great proffessional, kind to his mum and a"lovely boy"
Isn't this like shades of the Steven Lawrence murder in reverse? Except that Steven wasn't a member of any gang or connected to any. He was murdered simply because of the colour of his skin.
It is very interesting to note that aog has deserted his usual source, the Daily Mail, in favour of the Daily Express's report. Could it perhaps be because the DM's account reports the following extract which the DE's doesn't:
"Nicholas went to help his friends in the Black Mafia gang"
In other words, tragic though it is that the lad was killed at all, might it have happened simply because he was chased, caught and stabbed by the "enemy gang" because of his gang allegiance, as opposed to the picture aog is trying to paint, i.e. one based soley one racism?
This theory would add more credence to the supposed "reasons" for his killing, in the minds of the perpetrators, than the more sanitised DE report and aog's rather inflammatory comments "another savage murder" / "cowardly killing of a young white boy" etc?
No, such comments, aog, would have applied to the Steven Lawrence murder, except, as I've already pointed out, he WAS targeted merely because of his ethnicity by subhumans of another colour.
It is very interesting to note that aog has deserted his usual source, the Daily Mail, in favour of the Daily Express's report. Could it perhaps be because the DM's account reports the following extract which the DE's doesn't:
"Nicholas went to help his friends in the Black Mafia gang"
In other words, tragic though it is that the lad was killed at all, might it have happened simply because he was chased, caught and stabbed by the "enemy gang" because of his gang allegiance, as opposed to the picture aog is trying to paint, i.e. one based soley one racism?
This theory would add more credence to the supposed "reasons" for his killing, in the minds of the perpetrators, than the more sanitised DE report and aog's rather inflammatory comments "another savage murder" / "cowardly killing of a young white boy" etc?
No, such comments, aog, would have applied to the Steven Lawrence murder, except, as I've already pointed out, he WAS targeted merely because of his ethnicity by subhumans of another colour.
>Colour is irrelevant
Well in this case it isnt, a gang of black savages attacked and killed a white boy (even if he was in gang himself).
If it had been in reverse there would have been an outcry, a public enquiry, and the mother of the murdered boy would have been given the MBE.
But in this case we all have to be quiet about it so we dont upset racial relations.
I have to say the immigration of so many black people into this country has been one massive mistake.
Well in this case it isnt, a gang of black savages attacked and killed a white boy (even if he was in gang himself).
If it had been in reverse there would have been an outcry, a public enquiry, and the mother of the murdered boy would have been given the MBE.
But in this case we all have to be quiet about it so we dont upset racial relations.
I have to say the immigration of so many black people into this country has been one massive mistake.
VHG/AOG
Please explain what it is in the story which leads you to believe this is about race rather than gangs?
Specifically, can someone please clarify the question. Are there people out there who think that if you mix races, the outcome will be gangs and murder?
Is that REALLY the question?
It seems...to be polite...naive.
Please explain what it is in the story which leads you to believe this is about race rather than gangs?
Specifically, can someone please clarify the question. Are there people out there who think that if you mix races, the outcome will be gangs and murder?
Is that REALLY the question?
It seems...to be polite...naive.
AOG
Remember that 13 year old kid who was killed about four months ago - do I remember you asking, "What kind of 13 year old is doing out at 02:00am"?
Do you level the same degree of blame to THIS child?
Do you think that there's a difference between black and White kids hanging out, and black and White kids who are associated with hangs running around with knives and guns?
Are both exactly the same to you, and if not, doesn't that negate the thrust of your argument?
Also, will you assert that the victim was 'mixing with the wrong crowd' the next time a black kid is murdered.
I'm curious as to where you stamen because your position seems...'chronologically malleable'.
Remember that 13 year old kid who was killed about four months ago - do I remember you asking, "What kind of 13 year old is doing out at 02:00am"?
Do you level the same degree of blame to THIS child?
Do you think that there's a difference between black and White kids hanging out, and black and White kids who are associated with hangs running around with knives and guns?
Are both exactly the same to you, and if not, doesn't that negate the thrust of your argument?
Also, will you assert that the victim was 'mixing with the wrong crowd' the next time a black kid is murdered.
I'm curious as to where you stamen because your position seems...'chronologically malleable'.
Couldn't agree more with VHG if the roles had been reversed all hell would have been let loose.
Member of a gang or not, it seems rather strange that out of all the other gang members it was the white boy who was picked out to became the victim.
Referring to the Stephen Lawrence murder, I wonder if this white boy's name will go down in the annals of the history of crime, as the name Stephen Lawrence has?
I very much doubt it as there are no 'Brownie Points' to be gained.
sp1814 asks:
/// Remember that 13 year old kid who was killed about four months ago - do I remember you asking, "What kind of 13 year old is doing out at 02:00am"?///
/// Do you level the same degree of blame to THIS child?///
What has this got to do with this crime? I can see no mention in the report of what time of day it was, only that they were still in their school's uniform. This boy was 16 years old, and his mother was close by.
This is yet another ploy (others being the name of the newspaper reporting the crime & digs at me) to reverts one's attention from yet another savage crime.
eyethenkyou states,
/// he WAS targeted merely because of his ethnicity by subhumans of another colour. ///
when referring to the Lawrence case, yes that seems to fit this particular case perfectly also.
Member of a gang or not, it seems rather strange that out of all the other gang members it was the white boy who was picked out to became the victim.
Referring to the Stephen Lawrence murder, I wonder if this white boy's name will go down in the annals of the history of crime, as the name Stephen Lawrence has?
I very much doubt it as there are no 'Brownie Points' to be gained.
sp1814 asks:
/// Remember that 13 year old kid who was killed about four months ago - do I remember you asking, "What kind of 13 year old is doing out at 02:00am"?///
/// Do you level the same degree of blame to THIS child?///
What has this got to do with this crime? I can see no mention in the report of what time of day it was, only that they were still in their school's uniform. This boy was 16 years old, and his mother was close by.
This is yet another ploy (others being the name of the newspaper reporting the crime & digs at me) to reverts one's attention from yet another savage crime.
eyethenkyou states,
/// he WAS targeted merely because of his ethnicity by subhumans of another colour. ///
when referring to the Lawrence case, yes that seems to fit this particular case perfectly also.
The Stephen Lawrence case became a cause celebre, in the main, because of the almighty c0ck-up of investigating it carried out by the Police.
It was ever thus that boys join gangs and that they occasionally meet up to thump lumps out of each other...........nowadays the weapons of choice are no longer catapults, pea-shooters and spud-guns.
It was ever thus that boys join gangs and that they occasionally meet up to thump lumps out of each other...........nowadays the weapons of choice are no longer catapults, pea-shooters and spud-guns.
Ben Kinsella - White kid killed by black kids - not a racist crime.
Kris McDonald - White kid killed by Asian kids - racist crime.
Stephen Lawrence - Black kid killed by White kids - racist crime.
It's not cut and dried every time, because only where the victim is chosen because of their ethnicity and nothing else, does it become a racist crime.
This lad's case is entirely different to Stephen Lawrence because Stephen was standing at a bus stop with his mate when he was attacked by a gang of racists. Stephen was an A level student who was never in a gang, nor ran around with gang members.
That's the key difference between this case and that of Stephen Lawrence.
Kris McDonald - White kid killed by Asian kids - racist crime.
Stephen Lawrence - Black kid killed by White kids - racist crime.
It's not cut and dried every time, because only where the victim is chosen because of their ethnicity and nothing else, does it become a racist crime.
This lad's case is entirely different to Stephen Lawrence because Stephen was standing at a bus stop with his mate when he was attacked by a gang of racists. Stephen was an A level student who was never in a gang, nor ran around with gang members.
That's the key difference between this case and that of Stephen Lawrence.
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