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Cloned Milk and Meat to go on sale in the Uk
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http://uk.finance.yah...e-2362292401.html?x=0
What are your views on this "Frankenstein" food, will you purchase it especially if its cheap or are you weary of it and will be looking at every new disease that rears it's head and birth defect with a microscope especially if it was shown that the person in question were heavy users of cloned foodstuffs?
What are your views on this "Frankenstein" food, will you purchase it especially if its cheap or are you weary of it and will be looking at every new disease that rears it's head and birth defect with a microscope especially if it was shown that the person in question were heavy users of cloned foodstuffs?
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This has only been in the food chain in this generation. So they cannot say with certainty that there are no long term effects.
When they started feeding dead sheep to cows they said that it was fine then along came BSE.
If you go back time after time where money is involved science is rushed for a profit.
Thalidomide?
I am fine with this as long as it is labeled as such so I can avoid it.
When they started feeding dead sheep to cows they said that it was fine then along came BSE.
If you go back time after time where money is involved science is rushed for a profit.
Thalidomide?
I am fine with this as long as it is labeled as such so I can avoid it.
"tell you what just get me smited eh? "
no geezer, we will walk hand in hand through the valley of the shadow of death together, you will fear no evil for i will be with you, and as we meetith St Pete i will show you the secret hand shake and we shall pass over the thresh hold to heaven together.
you know it only makes sense
no geezer, we will walk hand in hand through the valley of the shadow of death together, you will fear no evil for i will be with you, and as we meetith St Pete i will show you the secret hand shake and we shall pass over the thresh hold to heaven together.
you know it only makes sense
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So is cloned food going to be more or less expensive? I'm guessing that if they you have a prize bull that produces the best steak it will be pricey but then when every farmer gets their hands on one embryo and this great bull is copied everywhere this would then drive down the price as it's now mass produced? How many times can you clone 1 animal?
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i think that's fundamentally different. Deliberate breeding for specific attributes is just helping nature along a bit. Give short legged dogs only short legged dogs to mate with and you get even shorter legs.
GM is un-natural in that it does things nature would never do - ever!
You could dump herrings onto your strawberry patch for a million years but the strawberries will never take on any of the fish genetic characteristics as they have in the laboratory.
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i think that's fundamentally different. Deliberate breeding for specific attributes is just helping nature along a bit. Give short legged dogs only short legged dogs to mate with and you get even shorter legs.
GM is un-natural in that it does things nature would never do - ever!
You could dump herrings onto your strawberry patch for a million years but the strawberries will never take on any of the fish genetic characteristics as they have in the laboratory.
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what about this (h)ear then : http://www.livescienc...chimera-mouse-ear.jpg
I posted this at 23:44 on Thursday 5th Aug 2010 on the following thread...
http://www.theanswerb...s/Question924089.html
And it relates directly to this question...
“I tire of people with little or no understanding of science spouting nonsense about animal cloning (or for that matter GM foods). The way people wring their hands in fear whilst talking unsubstantiated hysterical drivel, you'd think that we had travelled back to 1796 when Edward Jenner first proved the medical veracity of smallpox vaccination.
The media and the public back then did precisely what they are doing today – demonising areas of science about which they know almost nothing about because of fear due to ignorance.”
http://www.theanswerb...s/Question924089.html
And it relates directly to this question...
“I tire of people with little or no understanding of science spouting nonsense about animal cloning (or for that matter GM foods). The way people wring their hands in fear whilst talking unsubstantiated hysterical drivel, you'd think that we had travelled back to 1796 when Edward Jenner first proved the medical veracity of smallpox vaccination.
The media and the public back then did precisely what they are doing today – demonising areas of science about which they know almost nothing about because of fear due to ignorance.”
Continued....
There is a staggering level of ignorance displayed on this subject in the media and on this thread. Posters like 'Steg' and 'MickyMacgraw” are breathtakingly ill-informed on this matter, which the latter poster, while discussing the mechanism of cloning, admired that he/she, “... became lost after [phrases such as] 'DNA strand fragmentation'”. And yet despite this admission of a complete lack of knowledge on the subject, continues to draw conclusions based upon nothing more than their feelings about the issue. He/she displays an even greater depth of misunderstanding by asking the question, “How many times can you clone 1 animal?”.
The mind truly boggles.
On the subject of GM foods (ie. foods that have been artificially modified by human intervention – and not necessarily in a laboratory), how many of you know that carrots are not naturally orange in colour? Google it.
How many of you know that rice can now be genetically modified to contain increased quantities of vitamin A which helps to save over half a million children in third world countries from going blind? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice
There is a staggering level of ignorance displayed on this subject in the media and on this thread. Posters like 'Steg' and 'MickyMacgraw” are breathtakingly ill-informed on this matter, which the latter poster, while discussing the mechanism of cloning, admired that he/she, “... became lost after [phrases such as] 'DNA strand fragmentation'”. And yet despite this admission of a complete lack of knowledge on the subject, continues to draw conclusions based upon nothing more than their feelings about the issue. He/she displays an even greater depth of misunderstanding by asking the question, “How many times can you clone 1 animal?”.
The mind truly boggles.
On the subject of GM foods (ie. foods that have been artificially modified by human intervention – and not necessarily in a laboratory), how many of you know that carrots are not naturally orange in colour? Google it.
How many of you know that rice can now be genetically modified to contain increased quantities of vitamin A which helps to save over half a million children in third world countries from going blind? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice
Continued...
GM foods and animal cloning are not things we should be scared about because that fear is based on irrationality. No new super virus is going to leap forth from a laboratory because some 'reckless' scientist tried to splice one genetic strand of code into another genetic strand of code.
There are two types of people who are scared of science - god botherers and eco-nutters. The god-botherers think that man should not try to discover anything new that isn't described in their holy texts. The eco-nutters, who have about as much understanding of science as I have about hieroglyphics. They endlessly spout cretinous platitudes about 'saving the planet' and 'maintaining the balance with nature' whist simultaneously organising demonstrations utilising electronic equipment (powered by 'chargers' that are plugged into the national grid) constructed by multi-national corporations using petroleum based products such as plastics, whilst wearing cloths manufactured in a factory in China which are then transported to the UK on diesel powered super-takers and sold..... you get the idea.
Basically, anyone who lives in the modern western world and who rails against modern scientific advances is a hypocrite of the highest order. I have no problem with people objecting to anything they see as being detrimental to their well-being and future. But please, at least try to understand the subject you are objecting to.
GM foods and animal cloning are not things we should be scared about because that fear is based on irrationality. No new super virus is going to leap forth from a laboratory because some 'reckless' scientist tried to splice one genetic strand of code into another genetic strand of code.
There are two types of people who are scared of science - god botherers and eco-nutters. The god-botherers think that man should not try to discover anything new that isn't described in their holy texts. The eco-nutters, who have about as much understanding of science as I have about hieroglyphics. They endlessly spout cretinous platitudes about 'saving the planet' and 'maintaining the balance with nature' whist simultaneously organising demonstrations utilising electronic equipment (powered by 'chargers' that are plugged into the national grid) constructed by multi-national corporations using petroleum based products such as plastics, whilst wearing cloths manufactured in a factory in China which are then transported to the UK on diesel powered super-takers and sold..... you get the idea.
Basically, anyone who lives in the modern western world and who rails against modern scientific advances is a hypocrite of the highest order. I have no problem with people objecting to anything they see as being detrimental to their well-being and future. But please, at least try to understand the subject you are objecting to.
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