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anotheoldgit | 12:58 Sat 19th Jun 2010 | News
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http://www.express.co...arged-with-hotel-rape

Seeing that he has not been found guilty yet of the charges against him, I thought it unfair to comment on these.

What I would wish to comment on, is the fact that he entered and won the Mr Gay UK title.

Why as a serving police officer was he was allowed to enter such a contest, has to be questioned, especially when it was reported, he appeared in a police-style outfit, including a stab-proof vest.

He said "I thought telling people I was gay would mean no one would want to know me, but at the Mr Gay UK final I had more people supporting me than I’ve ever had in my life".

Er, could that be that all those at the Mr Gay final, were also gay?

/// Earlier he was reported to have said his main reason for entering the contest was to “change the public perception of the stereotypical gay man”.///

Now how did he expect their perception would change?
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"Why as a serving police officer was he was allowed to enter such a contest, has to be questioned, especially when it was reported, he appeared in a police-style outfit, including a stab-proof vest. "

Why not? While it's not an especially private thing, he did it in his spare time so it's not really related.

He doesn't seem to be wearing a uniform in the picture in this article (which as far as I can tell is from the actual contest):

http://www.pinknews.c...icles/2005-2619.html/
wasn't there a female soldier who entered Miss UK? or Miss World?
"// Earlier he was reported to have said his main reason for entering the contest was to “change the public perception of the stereotypical gay man”.///

Now how did he expect their perception would change? "

I expect what he probably meant was the stereotype of gay men as extremely effeminate/incapable of 'butch' professions such as the police force.

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Why are you so eager to snipe at the fact he felt supported? Your tone implies that you seem to find it quite distasteful.
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Kromovaracun

/// He doesn't seem to be wearing a uniform in the picture in this article (which as far as I can tell is from the actual contest ///

/// As one of 23 regional finalists, he wore swimwear in front of celebrity judges and also appeared in a police-style outfit, including a stab-proof vest.///

/// Why are you so eager to snipe at the fact he felt supported? Your tone implies that you seem to find it quite distasteful.///

Why are you so surprised that some find a Mr Gay contest distasteful?

I would have thought that most heterosexual persons would find the thought of gay practices to be distasteful, just as most homosexuals would find the thought of heterosexual practices distasteful.
"Why are you so surprised that some find a Mr Gay contest distasteful?"

I'm not surprised, exactly, I just don't see the need to venomously snipe at it the way you seem to be.

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"I would have thought that most heterosexual persons would find the thought of gay practices to be distasteful, just as most homosexuals would find the thought of heterosexual practices distasteful."

I understand what you're saying here (and yes there's a degree of truth in it), but you'd be surprised at how many homos and heteros genuinely don't really care what the 'other side' do between the sheets.

Regardless of that, though, I don't think it follows logically to go from being a bit grossed out about other peoples' sex lives to specifically starting a thread so that you can grumble about some dumb competition they held. I don't think that's normal at all, if I'm honest with you.
Oh, and sorry about the outfit thing - I found that through google images, so my focus was narrowed down to pictures so I only really skimmed through the article.

A 'police-style outfit' is a far cry from the real thing though...
My feelings might be contentious to some but I would rather see a Mr Gay contest than a female body-building contest....
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/// Regardless of that, though, I don't think it follows logically to go from being a bit grossed out about other peoples' sex lives to specifically starting a thread so that you can grumble about some dumb competition they held. I don't think that's normal at all, if I'm honest with you.///

It was an item in the news, that I supposed would foster debate, which it obvious did, seeing that I started 3 threads, and this one was the only one so far to attract discussion.

Just because a thread for some reason upsets certain person's agenda , isn't a good enough reason for a thread not to be entered on AB.
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boxtops

/// I would rather see a Mr Gay contest than a female body-building contest.///

Personally I would find both abhorrent, but if I had no other choice, I am afraid the female would win hands down.
"It was an item in the news, that I supposed would foster debate,"

But the bulk of your OP, as I said, just appears to be you grumbling about the Mr Gay UK contest from 3 years ago (the winner of which is the subject of news), by making a few minor swipes at a couple of comments said winner made at the time.

You're not 'upsetting my agenda' - I'm just trying to challenge you. The reason you've got the response you have from me is that I think your thread is very strange.
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kromovaracun

/// The reason you've got the response you have from me is that I think your thread is very strange. ///

That is your opinion, and you are entitled to voice it, but please don't criticise me for voicing mine.
It's not the idea that you're voicing your opinion that I'm attacking - I'm challenging your question because I think it's weird.
AOG, lighten up.. live and let live :o)
until your lot get your way this is still a relatively liberal country built by good men and women that were prepared to fight and die so that we can all enjoy the freedom to associate and express ourselves. A police man is no less free to publicly announce his sexuality in his spare time than anyone else - and in a way I understand his reasoning re changing perceptions as the media typically only focus on the very camp so it could be useful to show the more sheltered in society that not all gay men are hairdressers but are soldiers, builders, red indians and cops ... actually i think i've gone off point here

*hums ymca*
"I would have thought that most heterosexual persons would find the thought of gay practices to be distasteful, just as most homosexuals would find the thought of heterosexual practices distasteful. "

What do you mean by 'practices'? Are you categorising the contests as 'practices'? Because I'd use that word to describe the sexual activities, but are you using it to describe literally anything that homo- or heterosexual people do?
Why do we have to have a 'Mr Gay UK' contest?

Why can't all 'men' enter the Mr UK contest?

Gays are always bleating about not being singled out and yet here we have a specific contest for only gays

Pathetic
"Why can't all 'men' enter the Mr UK contest?

Gays are always bleating about not being singled out and yet here we have a specific contest for only gays

Pathetic"

Why does it bother you so much? When was the last time you even thought about the Mr Gay UK (Or Mr UK for that matter) contest before you saw this thread? I can honestly say I had only a basic understanding that either of them even existed before AOG bought it up.

"Gays are always bleating about not being singled out and yet here we have a specific contest for only gays"

Minus the inevitable radicals, 'gays' just want to coexist, meaning they can 'stand out' if they want to but not if they don't. I can assure you, you're getting far more bothered about this issue than your average gay man... or straight man, for that matter...
joeluke

You're wrong...two years ago a straight model won Mr Gay UK. You don't have to be gay to enter.

Regarding the question - why on earth would anyone question why a copper couldn't enter? or a doctor, a fireman or an oil rig worker?

I don't understand what's prompted the fuss...and by the looks of things, I'm not alone.
A straight man won the Mr Gay UK contest???

I've heard it all now

Surely he should have been disqualified?

Shame on the organisers for allowing an unqualified entrant!

In the article it states "he was reported to have said his main reason for entering the contest was to “change the public perception of the stereotypical gay man""

Real mens perception of the stereotypical gay man will never change

It's wrong and always will be, regardless of how much political correctness is forced upon us

We can offend people in numerous ways and get away with it, but woe betide we offend a gay man

The phrase 'freedom of speech' is a misnomer in this uber PC country of ours
Calm down, joeluke.
Of course, the right to Free Speech still gives you the right to insult gay people........although I suspect you probably abuse the privilege..........

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