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Gagging order on David Kelly records could be lifted.
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http://www.guardian.c...ing-order-david-kelly
Lord Hutton said that he " requested that the post-mortem report should not be disclosed for 70 years as I was concerned that the publication of that report would cause [Kelly's] daughters and his wife further and unnecessary distress."
Is this a good enough reason to keep the post-mortem report secret, should not the public now be made aware of these details?
What are they covering up?
Lord Hutton said that he " requested that the post-mortem report should not be disclosed for 70 years as I was concerned that the publication of that report would cause [Kelly's] daughters and his wife further and unnecessary distress."
Is this a good enough reason to keep the post-mortem report secret, should not the public now be made aware of these details?
What are they covering up?
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David Kelly was bumped off ... very little question about it.
We like to think that those who govern us are all nice, kindly old uncles who never do bad things, never lie, never manipulate, etc.
But we all know, deep down inside, that it's just not like that.
People who have got in the way of the official line over the past few years have come to grief.
Take the Govt scientist who said that some drugs were less addictive than had been thought. He was right. He was clever. He had answered the question. But it wasn't the answer that the Govt wanted. So, he lost his job.
The rule now is ... don't tell the truth, or give your honest opinion ... say what the Govt want the rest of us to hear. Otherwise, you will find yourself in trouble.
We like to think that those who govern us are all nice, kindly old uncles who never do bad things, never lie, never manipulate, etc.
But we all know, deep down inside, that it's just not like that.
People who have got in the way of the official line over the past few years have come to grief.
Take the Govt scientist who said that some drugs were less addictive than had been thought. He was right. He was clever. He had answered the question. But it wasn't the answer that the Govt wanted. So, he lost his job.
The rule now is ... don't tell the truth, or give your honest opinion ... say what the Govt want the rest of us to hear. Otherwise, you will find yourself in trouble.
/// The rule now is ... don't tell the truth, or give your honest opinion ... say what the Govt want the rest of us to hear. Otherwise, you will find yourself in trouble.///
How right you may well be joggerjayne, the problem with this statement, one cannot 'cherry pick', meaning for example, are the BNP as bad as we are told?
How right you may well be joggerjayne, the problem with this statement, one cannot 'cherry pick', meaning for example, are the BNP as bad as we are told?
Why can't we cherry pick?
Those in power ... the "Establishment" ... most definitely cherry pick.
As to the BNP being as bad as we are told ...
... unfortunately, we never got the chance to find out.
When Nick Griffin offered himself for public questioning on the telly, what happened?
Mr Griffin arrived smartly in a nice suit, while his opponents shouted on the streets and got into fights with the Police.
When he said that the BNP's objection to Muslims was that they oppressed and degraded women, and that the BNP believed in equality, the audience were allowed to jeer instead of picking holes in his argument ... which left him looking as though he'd made a good point.
His main panel opponent was the timid, lightweight, Jack Straw. Mr Straw argued that, whatever he might now say, Mr Griffin's party had shown by their history that their real agenda was to support "fascist" ideologies. Mr Griffin then reminded Mr Straw that, while Mr Griffin's father had been a fighter pilot in the War, fighting the Nazis, Mr Straw's father had spent the War in prison for refusing to fight the Nazis. The feeble retort from an audience member was that "we are not concerned with the past". That was stupid, because they had previously based thier judgment of the BNP on the party's past record.
So ... a real wasted opportunity.
Mr Griffin came away looking like a thoughtful politician, with some thought provoking ideas. His opponents came away looking like a bunch of loud mouthed oiks, who had nothing to say, and could only jeer.
The papers feebly tried to say that mr Griffin had been exposed for what he really is. I reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
So ... who knows the truth about the BNP? Sadly we missed our chance to find out!
Those in power ... the "Establishment" ... most definitely cherry pick.
As to the BNP being as bad as we are told ...
... unfortunately, we never got the chance to find out.
When Nick Griffin offered himself for public questioning on the telly, what happened?
Mr Griffin arrived smartly in a nice suit, while his opponents shouted on the streets and got into fights with the Police.
When he said that the BNP's objection to Muslims was that they oppressed and degraded women, and that the BNP believed in equality, the audience were allowed to jeer instead of picking holes in his argument ... which left him looking as though he'd made a good point.
His main panel opponent was the timid, lightweight, Jack Straw. Mr Straw argued that, whatever he might now say, Mr Griffin's party had shown by their history that their real agenda was to support "fascist" ideologies. Mr Griffin then reminded Mr Straw that, while Mr Griffin's father had been a fighter pilot in the War, fighting the Nazis, Mr Straw's father had spent the War in prison for refusing to fight the Nazis. The feeble retort from an audience member was that "we are not concerned with the past". That was stupid, because they had previously based thier judgment of the BNP on the party's past record.
So ... a real wasted opportunity.
Mr Griffin came away looking like a thoughtful politician, with some thought provoking ideas. His opponents came away looking like a bunch of loud mouthed oiks, who had nothing to say, and could only jeer.
The papers feebly tried to say that mr Griffin had been exposed for what he really is. I reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
So ... who knows the truth about the BNP? Sadly we missed our chance to find out!
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