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Police investigating MPs expenses leak
I see that our MPs have asked the police to investigate who leaked their expense details to the press, no doubt with a view to the person responsible being prosecuted.
Isn't this a bit like a burglar, caught red-handed, asking the police to investigate and prosecute the person who reported him to the police?
Have our MPs no shame, as well as no honesty?
Isn't this a bit like a burglar, caught red-handed, asking the police to investigate and prosecute the person who reported him to the police?
Have our MPs no shame, as well as no honesty?
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Yes youre spot on - many many MPs are a lot like a burglar - or worse a banker - no shame and no honesty.
Just waiting for MPs expenses enquiry to eventually announce that MPs expenses will be abolished and MPs ( poor hard done by darlings) will receive banker type bonuses instead - and, like the bankers, will receive these bonuses no matter how badly they mess up the Country !
Just waiting for MPs expenses enquiry to eventually announce that MPs expenses will be abolished and MPs ( poor hard done by darlings) will receive banker type bonuses instead - and, like the bankers, will receive these bonuses no matter how badly they mess up the Country !
Olddutch, I'm officially offended.
I am what you would class as a 'banker'
I am very honest and I certainly feel shame.
Stereotyping is unfair and ignorant.
I work at least 5 times the amount of hours that the boss of my company does and I earn at least 10 times less of a bonus!!
As do most of my colleagues, so you think we aren't p****d off that fat cat CEO's and politicians use our money to pay for their petty luxuries.
I am what you would class as a 'banker'
I am very honest and I certainly feel shame.
Stereotyping is unfair and ignorant.
I work at least 5 times the amount of hours that the boss of my company does and I earn at least 10 times less of a bonus!!
As do most of my colleagues, so you think we aren't p****d off that fat cat CEO's and politicians use our money to pay for their petty luxuries.
TCL-MUMPING - '...how can you say they have been dishonest?' Easy , like this..'They have been dishonest.'
Claiming that your sister's back bedroom is your main residence is dishonest. It's untrue.
The simple fact is that the rules haven't been broken because the rules allow dishonest statements to be made.
Claiming that your sister's back bedroom is your main residence is dishonest. It's untrue.
The simple fact is that the rules haven't been broken because the rules allow dishonest statements to be made.
CJ
Not unfair or ignorant - Im not talking indians but chiefs like those who have been "retired" - honest banker a contradiction in terms in much of upper banking echelons - your profession at the very top is generally a disgrace to society because its selfishness reckless incompetence dishonesties and the difficulties it has caused and is causing to ordinary workers and families in the UK and global economy - top bankers are greedier and worse than politicians - Such bankers, who have caused the financial mayhem we are all suffering from, deserve all the offence and anything else you can throw at them. They should be prosecuted and made to repay their ill-gotten bonuses if there was any moral justice - all honest underlings in unsubsidised banks exempted.
Not unfair or ignorant - Im not talking indians but chiefs like those who have been "retired" - honest banker a contradiction in terms in much of upper banking echelons - your profession at the very top is generally a disgrace to society because its selfishness reckless incompetence dishonesties and the difficulties it has caused and is causing to ordinary workers and families in the UK and global economy - top bankers are greedier and worse than politicians - Such bankers, who have caused the financial mayhem we are all suffering from, deserve all the offence and anything else you can throw at them. They should be prosecuted and made to repay their ill-gotten bonuses if there was any moral justice - all honest underlings in unsubsidised banks exempted.
I don't know them all off by heart TCL, but one of them is that you can make a dishonest claim such as 'My sister's back bedroom is my main residence' (don't laugh - this actually happened), in order to maximise the allowance money that you can claim for having a second residence.
As I said, I'm not sure of the exact wording, but I'm pretty sure this dishonest claim doesn't infringe any rules because no disciplinary action has been made against the person that made it in the case I mentioned above.
As I said, I'm not sure of the exact wording, but I'm pretty sure this dishonest claim doesn't infringe any rules because no disciplinary action has been made against the person that made it in the case I mentioned above.
TCL-MUMPING - They may not have broken any rules but the rules are written in such a way that allows morally questionable practices to take place.
For example... let�s say you live in Manchester and you become an MP. Suddenly you find you have to spend a fair bit of time in London � so you need somewhere to live. You purchase a property nearer to London and claim that this new house is your second home. Having a second home allows you to claim for furniture, home improvements, etc. Now you have a second home near London that is furnished using tax payers� money.
But now you want to improve your property in Manchester and buy some new furniture. Naturally, you don�t want to spend your own money. So you then switch your main home/second home status. You now claim that, as you�re spending so much time in your London house, the London home is now your primary home. Therefore your house in Manchester becomes your second home � allowing you to buy new TVs, furniture, curtains, etc. at the tax payers� expense.
Of course, at any time in the future you can �switch� again and spend more tax payers� money on whichever house you deem to be your �second� home.
The above practice does not break any rules.
But I think you�ll be hard pushed to find someone who thinks that this is morally acceptable.
For example... let�s say you live in Manchester and you become an MP. Suddenly you find you have to spend a fair bit of time in London � so you need somewhere to live. You purchase a property nearer to London and claim that this new house is your second home. Having a second home allows you to claim for furniture, home improvements, etc. Now you have a second home near London that is furnished using tax payers� money.
But now you want to improve your property in Manchester and buy some new furniture. Naturally, you don�t want to spend your own money. So you then switch your main home/second home status. You now claim that, as you�re spending so much time in your London house, the London home is now your primary home. Therefore your house in Manchester becomes your second home � allowing you to buy new TVs, furniture, curtains, etc. at the tax payers� expense.
Of course, at any time in the future you can �switch� again and spend more tax payers� money on whichever house you deem to be your �second� home.
The above practice does not break any rules.
But I think you�ll be hard pushed to find someone who thinks that this is morally acceptable.
not really, ludwig. My expenses were always a matter between me, my immediate boss, who authorised them, and the pay department. This certainly didn't entitle the entire board of directors to see them - let alone the customers who paid the money that the pay department granted me. People are still allowed privacy.
(I'm not arguing in favour of the current MPs' system, I'm arguing against theft.)
(I'm not arguing in favour of the current MPs' system, I'm arguing against theft.)
This is the little green book the MPs give reference to. Should this be used in a court of law to put them all in the nick? I believe there are some telling paragraphs inside it
http://www1.sky.com/news/GreenBook.pdf
http://www1.sky.com/news/GreenBook.pdf
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