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FatticusInch | 00:35 Mon 03rd Oct 2022 | News
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10 days after the catastraf*** that was the Fiscal Event…..

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss-to-delay-approval-vote-on-cutting-45p-rate-of-tax-cabinet-minister-says-12710703

Sounds like she’s lost the Parliamentary party already.
Well, we knew it was going to be a roller-coaster ride…..Lol.
How to install confidence in Britain and the markets eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63112463

What a shambles.

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^ Our forefathers also ensured we have a right to freedom of speech, Bobbi. And that includes criticising the government of the day, irrespective of whether or not we used our right to vote.
09:30 Mon 03rd Oct 2022
Not criticising your economic bona fides, MrF. But it's only £550,000, shirley.

Just a thought, during covid the Tories got away with governing by edict, thou shalt not ... go out, have fun, have a party (whatever they might be). Have they just got lazy, expecting everyone and every organisation to obey meekly?
They certainly adopted very socialist policies, Dr.

Autocratic rather than socialist, surely?
In short Olive oil has in record time proven to be unfit for number 10 but no real surprise. Erratic decisions, no thought process at all. Just keep taking a lucky dip out the hat and wait for a reaction. Never mind we've still got away with the bankers bonuses.
I can't understand it. Truss was 'absolutely committed' to the policy' yesterday.
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Spicerack
//Not criticising your economic bona fides, MrF. But it's only £550,000, shirley.//

Ah yes, excuse my faux pas, I’ve been using the Truss government calculator to do my sums! Easy mistake to make I suppose, be thankful I’m not in cabinet eh? Lol

Hasn't Ms neo-Thatch suggested that Kwasi snook in the change, the naughty boy, without telling her.
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From Sky.

Ministers 'hiding from their own conference' - Labour
Shadow health secretary Wes Streeting has criticised government ministers for "hiding".
It comes after a number of members of the government and Liz Truss supporters pulled out of events at the Tory Party conference in Birmingham.
Mr Streeting said: "We're used to seeing Conservative ministers hiding from the voters, it's something else to see them hiding from their own conference.
"The Conservatives have destroyed their economic credibility and damaged trust in the British economy.
"No wonder they're hiding."

It’s all gone a bit Pete Tong hasn’t it?
Oliver Cromwell has got a lot to answer for!!
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Even more:

/More from 'This has an end of days feel': The amount of poison being dripped in ears at Tory conference is striking

Presumably the prime minister wanted Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng to take heat of the U-turn announcement, so waited until his media round this morning to make the move.
But if the government had acted earlier, the Michael Gove and Grant Shapps criticism would have been neutralised and conference wouldn't have got off to such a messy, divided start.
Another point on the "why didn't they U-turn earlier?" list: the PM did a round of 11 ITV regional interviews last night, to be aired tonight at 6pm.
Many are now out of date due to the 45p policy change.
One of the things that has been striking as you tour the conference hotel bars is the amount of poison that is being dripped in ears.
"This has an end of days feel," one minister tells me.
Others are sanguine about changing career after losing their seats.
One big donor was blunt in their assessment of Liz Truss, saying simply: "She's finished."/

Fair assessment I’d say.

How long would it take to bring back Bozo?
Lol, in your dotage you’ve got ‘aggressive’ confused with ‘forthright’.

I meant aggressive
Not forthright!

And please less LOLs!!
Apologies, Dr. I presumed they was synonyms. I used to mutch off during English lessons.
Not sure how Fatti is being aggressive. 'Werthers Warriors' is a joke, no worse than '5C' or 'TROB' etc. And he's not ranting as claimed earlier.

It's the usual response - attack the poster rather than try to refute his arguments
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MissTerious,
//Lol, in your dotage you’ve got ‘aggressive’ confused with ‘forthright’.

I meant aggressive
Not forthright!

And please less LOLs!!//

Aw bless you! Don’t seem to mind though when there’s plenty of MAABOF’s, TROP’s, TROB’s and 5CP’s? Not been so many PMSL’s though by a certain poster lately?
Aren’t you missing him? Lol
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JDavis
//Not sure how Fatti is being aggressive. 'Werthers Warriors' is a joke, no worse than '5C' or 'TROB' etc. And he's not ranting as claimed earlier.

It's the usual response - attack the poster rather than try to refute his arguments//

Indeed, standard from a certain poster/posters when they have no credible response, basic diversionary tactic when the Tory party are mired in controversy and ineptitude.
09.43 Didn't you learn the Alphabet at school Lottie.
"G" Comes after "F" although I do realise some never went to school in your younger days
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Christ on a cross trainer! Get me a chair, I’m having a touch of the vapours!! Mad Nad(Dorries) has made a credible comment and has a valid point of view!!

/Johnson loyalist suggests Truss calls an election to get 'whole new mandate'
Nadine Dorries, who was a culture secretary under Boris Johnson before supporting Liz Truss, has suggested Ms Truss should call a general election.
She appears to be disgruntled with the PM rowing back on policy promised in the 2019 Conservative manifesto.
Ms Dorries said: "Widespread dismay at the fact that three years of work has effectively been put on hold.
"No one asked for this. Channel 4 sale, online safety, BBC licence fee review - all signed off by cabinet all ready to go, all stopped.
"If Liz wants a whole new mandate, she must take to the country."/

She’s not wrong! Lol
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Who to believe eh?

/PM economic advisor insists he warned of mini-budget risk after chancellor denial
An economic advisor to Liz Truss has insisted he warned the government over their mini-budget plans.
Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng denied that he had been warned about his financial plans while talking to journalists this morning.
But Gerard Lyons, an external counsel to Ms Truss, told the PA News agency: "Well, that's incorrect - I was very clear."
But Mr Lyons said he had "no view" on this morning's U-turn.
"I was critical of that immediately after the mini-statement and said so publicly on the record, but it's up to them what they do in terms of U-turns," he added.
Mr Lyons, the chief economic strategist at Netwealth, previously said that the chancellor "overstepped the mark" with his mini-budget and failed to adequately prepare the markets ahead of his announcement./

Someone’s telling porkies!

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