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A Year Of Taliban Rule In Afghanistan
Under Taliban rule quality of life for women in Afghanistan is deteriorating rapidly, as this link illustrates.
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I watched a documentary the other day about a women's hospital that has just one female doctor. Only females are allowed to treat females and since girls are no longer educated beyond the age of about 11 or 12, it follows that for women an aspiration to a career in any professional capacity is futile. A thing of the past. The unavoidable consequence of this appalling neglect is that very soon there will be no teachers for women and no access to medical treatment. A truly terrifying prospect.
What can the wider world do? What should it do? Or should it sit by and do nothing?
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I watched a documentary the other day about a women's hospital that has just one female doctor. Only females are allowed to treat females and since girls are no longer educated beyond the age of about 11 or 12, it follows that for women an aspiration to a career in any professional capacity is futile. A thing of the past. The unavoidable consequence of this appalling neglect is that very soon there will be no teachers for women and no access to medical treatment. A truly terrifying prospect.
What can the wider world do? What should it do? Or should it sit by and do nothing?
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The world should provide safe passage to all Afghan women to leave the country and find a better life somewhere else. Leave the Afghan men to their own devices ...
13:03 Mon 15th Aug 2022
Naomi
The historic deal between the Trump administration and the Taliban merited a thread on AB on which you contributed.
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Please stop trying to rewrite history.
The historic deal between the Trump administration and the Taliban merited a thread on AB on which you contributed.
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Please stop trying to rewrite history.
// The Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan, commonly known as the US–Taliban deal or the Doha Agreement, was a peace agreement signed by the United States and the Taliban on February 29, 2020 in Doha, Qatar, to bring an end to the 2001–2021 war in Afghanistan. Negotiated by Zalmay Khalilzad, the agreement did not involve the then Afghan government. The deal, which also had secret annexes, was one of the critical events that caused the collapse of the Afghan National Security Forces. Following the deal, the US dramatically reduced the number of air attacks and deprived the ANSF of a critical edge in fighting the Taliban insurgency, leading to the Taliban takeover of Kabul on 15 August 2021.
The agreement stipulated fighting restrictions for both the US and the Taliban, and provided for the withdrawal of all NATO forces from Afghanistan in return for the Taliban's counter-terrorism commitments. The US agreed to an initial reduction of its force level from 13,000 to 8,600 within 135 days (i.e. by July 2020), followed by a full withdrawal within 14 months (i.e. by 1 May 2021) if the Taliban keeps its commitments. The United States also committed to closing five military bases within 135 days, and expressed its intent to end economic sanctions on the Taliban by August 27, 2020. The agreement was supported by Pakistan, China, and Russia, and unanimously endorsed by the UN Security Council. //
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Trumps only great achievement - and you have forgotten.
The agreement stipulated fighting restrictions for both the US and the Taliban, and provided for the withdrawal of all NATO forces from Afghanistan in return for the Taliban's counter-terrorism commitments. The US agreed to an initial reduction of its force level from 13,000 to 8,600 within 135 days (i.e. by July 2020), followed by a full withdrawal within 14 months (i.e. by 1 May 2021) if the Taliban keeps its commitments. The United States also committed to closing five military bases within 135 days, and expressed its intent to end economic sanctions on the Taliban by August 27, 2020. The agreement was supported by Pakistan, China, and Russia, and unanimously endorsed by the UN Security Council. //
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Trumps only great achievement - and you have forgotten.
I agree the whole thing was folly, over the centuries, Afghanistan has proven to be uncivilisable. Just leave the whole sorry Sheet hole to its own devices. Sad as I am for those that had a glimpse of civilised living now snatched away from them, we just cannot help, that has been demonstrated time and again. It's mad mullah country, end of.
I did indeed contribute to that thread, Gromit. I said 'Don't hold your breath' - and, very sensibly, I didn't. The goalposts changed, the Afghan government hopped it, Biden was at the helm - and the rest IS history - as are the women of Afghanistan - which is what this thread is supposed to be about. But why worry about them? They're just collateral damage.
sit by and do nothing
they tried interventions and the no of deaths is not good value
$20 bn a year down the drain. They knew what they were doing when they let the Taliban in.
They thougth apparently the $20bn wd then flow into their pockets.
I have repeatedly asked the Beeb to stop beating their breasts over this. They listen to me just about as much as Naomi does. The outcome was wished for by the afghanis. The marxists at the Beeb think of it as the last of the liberation wars from colonial oppressors and lavish attention on it as much as Zim and Mugabe.
Fires in France, Rhine running dry, Ukraine, Trump - much more interesting... afghan girls cant read, good none of them can read this then
they tried interventions and the no of deaths is not good value
$20 bn a year down the drain. They knew what they were doing when they let the Taliban in.
They thougth apparently the $20bn wd then flow into their pockets.
I have repeatedly asked the Beeb to stop beating their breasts over this. They listen to me just about as much as Naomi does. The outcome was wished for by the afghanis. The marxists at the Beeb think of it as the last of the liberation wars from colonial oppressors and lavish attention on it as much as Zim and Mugabe.
Fires in France, Rhine running dry, Ukraine, Trump - much more interesting... afghan girls cant read, good none of them can read this then
gromit: "I have answered your question at 11:28. " - no you haven't you said we "ran away", I asked if you think we should have stayed after the Americans ran away. I assume because you use the derogatory phrase about UK but not about the US that you think we should have stayed after the Americans left.
gromit; "We should never have invaded Afghanistan. We should not have stayed for 20 years. It was a great achievement by Trump to withdraw and he deserves the credit for ending it.
The war was futile and cost $Trillions. " - how does that answer the question "Ok Gromit over to you. When Sleepy Joe handed it back do you think we should have stayed? "? I actually agree we should not have invaded but given that we did my question is relevant, especially when we "run away" and the Americans simply withdraw, that is a clear criticism so it's valid to ask my question.
The war was futile and cost $Trillions. " - how does that answer the question "Ok Gromit over to you. When Sleepy Joe handed it back do you think we should have stayed? "? I actually agree we should not have invaded but given that we did my question is relevant, especially when we "run away" and the Americans simply withdraw, that is a clear criticism so it's valid to ask my question.
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