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Is This What Brexiteers Wanted?

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diddlydo | 22:31 Fri 22nd Jul 2022 | News
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Queues at Dover:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62263176

I wonder how many of those caught up in the queues voted for Brexit. We travelled to France dozens of times when we were in the EU and were never held up at French border control (which was often unmanned as it didn't need to check anything). I hopr Brexiteers are sent to the back of the queue.
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//"British insistence on going through French passport controls"//

Where did that come from, jno?
Could only read the first bit, Naomi, but I wouldn't necessarily say anything Shapps or Truss said is a fact.
It’s not as if the government weren’t aware, is it?
https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/Port-of-Dover-queues-A-one-off-or-a-long-term-problem

/The UK government rejected a £33million proposal by the Port of Dover in 2020 to double the number of French passport control booths from five to 10 in anticipation of lengthier checks linked to Brexit.

Tim Reardon, head of EU Exit at the port, said French controls would get “more intrusive, and therefore slower” after the UK had fully left the EU, the Financial Times reported at the time.

“That means we need more French kiosks in order to maintain the rate of flow,” he said.

But the British government turned down the port’s request, which was made as part of a £200m Port Infrastructure Fund set up to manage the consequences of Brexit. Instead, it gave the port £33,000 for unrelated work.

Mr Bannister, CEO of the Port of Dover, told the BBC in 2020 that the lack of funding would make the transition to Brexit “more challenging”.

“Being denied the funding for this programme…What that does mean is that we could see increased friction and increased hold ups while we get through the opening period of the transition," Mr Bannister said.

The issue is that French border police now have to stamp Britons' passports and carry out more rigorous passport checks that could involve assessing visas, specific entry dates – UK citizens can now only stay in the EU for 90 in 180 days without a visa, etc.

Prior to Brexit, these passport checks were more cursory./

But of course, let’s blame the French.
It seems to me there's a hell of a lot of lemon-sucking going on by both the French and the sour-faced Remainers.
Well, it seems to me the government were warned about it 2 years ago by the CEO of Dover Port and did nothing.
The vote for Brexit was a vote, amongst other things, for more border controls just as the NI protocol was an agreement to have customs checks in the Irish Sea.
We get what we vote for. That's democracy :-)
It's not like we weren't warned.
Thing is, it isn't just the British who are being inconvenienced here. I can't imagine all the thousands of European lorry drivers are too happy with the delays either.
I think there was some other stuff going on 2 years ago!
FatticusInch, where does your number of only 5 French border kiosks at Dover come from. A few days ago they said that only 6 of the 12 were open so even the lower number is higher than the one you quote.
//We get what we vote for. That's democracy :-) //

Indeed - and even though they're making life as difficult as they can for all travellers - not just the British - we can thank the Lord we aren't stuck with them any more. Theirs is not an admirable stance.
davebro
//I think there was some other stuff going on 2 years ago!//

Yeah, £33 million is chickenfeed in comparison to the £4.3 billion written off in Covid fraud or spaffed on Track and Trace.
I wonder how quickly those 5 extra booths would’ve been built too whilst zero holiday traffic was passing through Dover in 2020?
What a missed opportunity.
theshedman
//FatticusInch, where does your number of only 5 French border kiosks at Dover come from.//

It’s all in the link I provided.
naomi, it comes from every Brit who decides to holiday in France or travel through it. Their country, their rules (though in fact they're enforcing EU border rules rather than their own - as they've long done). If Brits don't like it, go elsewhere or stay home.

The French actually have a perfectly decent excuse: thanks to Covid, this is the first time since Brexit that there's been this holiday rush to France. As Fatticus points out, the British government doughtily refused to increase the humber of passport booths even though they were warned by Dover.

So why all this blaming the French? The British refused to prepare for the result of their own referendum, and it has to be anyone's fault but their own?
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gully the queues are nothing to do with brexit. "

I'm afraid in this instance the stopped clock is pointing to the correct time. The delays are everytihng to do with more entry checks, passport stamps etc. Which are the consequence of Brexit, and from whch we have largely been shielded up to now because of reduced volumes of travel due to Covid. Didn't the govt refuse a request from France for extra kiosks too, on the Dover side, some while ago?
All very sad.
Don't see the number of 5 kiosks that you mention.
Found it now. Still doesn't get over them saying 6 out of the 12 were open the other day.
Theshedman,

//The UK government rejected a £33million proposal by the Port of Dover in 2020 to double the number of French passport control booths from five to 10 in anticipation of lengthier checks linked to Brexit.//

Which bit are you struggling with??
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Of course all the Brexiteers blame the French when this problem has been solely caused by their voting to leave the EU. Little Englanders all of them.
jno, // it comes from every Brit who decides to holiday in France or travel through it.//

No it doesn't, jno. You made it up.

Funny how we've had so much piety from the holier than thou - and several of them - jumping up and down about 'lies' lately ... and yet from the very same people, here we are.

I'm sure you get my drift.
Which lies Naomi?
From Downing St you mean, the very heart of government?
Elaborate.

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