What Are Your Thoughts On This?

Redhelen72 | 18:29 Mon 06th Jun 2022 | News

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Girl, 14, with nut allergy nearly died on flight after man ate peanuts

Was he in the wrong?
Is it survival of the fittest or should her parents not put her at risk by sticking her in a tin capsule?

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barry1010

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I've given this more thought and put the blame entirely on the parents. Yes, the man was a selfish buffoon but the parents were irresponsible knowingly putting their daughter in danger taking an unnecessary flight. They could have been seated next to a family who had stuffed themselves full of peanut butter sandwiches and peanut ice-cream whilst waiting...

08:46 Wed 08th Jun 2022

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choux

Interesting question, Redhelen. I have thought for a while before replying.

Natasha's Law clearly sets out the statutory responsibilities of those producing food.
https://www.bsaci.org/natashas-law-comes-into-effect-on-1st-october-2021/#:~:text=Natasha's%20Law%20comes%20into%20effect%20on%201st%20October%202021.,consumers%20on%20the%20same%20premises.
However, the every day-to-day responsibility of living with a serious and possibly life-threatening allergy must lie with the individual, or in this case of a minor - her parents.

Kardashev's post is spot on, imho.

I am glad the girl came through this all right and at least her story (even with the hyperbole) has highlighted the issue once again.

Ellipsis

Should she go to school though, NJ?

choux

An aside for NJ: I saw a programme last night in which it was claimed there are 100 cars for every mile in this country. That brought me up short.

Ellipsis

I assume she goes to school every day ... should she?

Or should the state pay to school her at home, to keep her safe from peanut-eating classmates?

Old_Geezer

One can not be expected to be so risk adverse that one has no life to speak of. The community has a moral responsibility to others in many cases, and one should be confident that someone would not deliberately risk the life of another simply to insist on eating a particular snack. Whether the law allows one to kill by peanut or not, the snacker had a duty to cease and the fact they selfishly disregarded that ought to trigger some legal reaction; and if it presently doesn't that should be changed. Lord knows it took long enough to deal with smoking; how long will it take to civilise on this issue ?

ToraToraTora

she should just carry a proper medical standard face mask for going on planes, trains etc. Sorted!

Prudie

I do really admire those who are so sympathetic to this girl's plight that they think the man should face a criminal charge nevertheless do the same people really not think that some responsibility must sit with the parents? Her allergy so severe that she can react to peanut dust from 10 rows away yet they risk taking her on a plane?

naomi24

//Her allergy so severe that she can react to peanut dust from 10 rows away yet they risk taking her on a plane?//

Difficult one really. The parents are responsible but she would have no life if they wrapped her in cotton wool and allowed her to go nowhere. I tend to think of it the way I would think about anyone who has a disability. As I would give up my roomy seat to someone who, because of an ailment, needs it more, so I would refrain from eating or using something - a perfume spray for example - that is likely to make someone ill. I wouldn't jail the man, but I don’t think it was too much to expect him to comply with a polite request - and one made for a very good reason. I've got to say I don't like him much - even though I don't know him.

Redhelen72

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Prudie - I certainly do not think he should face charges !
If the young ladies allergies are that bad then the parents are responsible and taking her on a plane is not responsible in my opinion.

If I was on the plane and felt ill I would eat nuts to help me - who is to say who has that she has more rights to a nut free plane than I have to eat nuts to improve my health?

naomi24

Would eating nuts save you from dying during the journey, RH?

Redhelen72

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I never said I would die - I said it would save me from being unwell!!
When I have a crash i need protein - hence I always carry nuts or protein bars (which contains nuts) with me.

naomi24

OK, keep your hair on, RH. I'm just asking. In light of the possibility that someone else if exposed to nuts could become very ill or potentially die, could you not get a protein fix from a source that doesn't include nuts? Would you consider that?

gness

Would you have to take peanuts, Helen? Or could you carry other types of true nuts to help you in a situation such as being on a plane where peanuts are not allowed?

Redhelen72

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On a plane what other types of protein can I use Naomi - as I am obviously not going to be aware until I board that there are issues.
Gness - If I am aware in advance I would try and change - its not always possible as I keep things in my handbag that are easy to source and long lasting.

gness

Just remembered my optician. He's allergic to citrus scents. Clients are informed and it's no great hardship not to use a citrus based perfume or shower gel etc. before an appointment.