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Feel Good Factor
Now that Brexit is History, and Britain has taken back control of it's own Borders and surrounding Sea.
Stopped freedom of movement, Stopped immigration and curtailed refugees.
Everything in the Country is plentifull again . Britain is once again a powerfull nation on its own.
Is there now a mighty,..... Feel Good Factor...... all over the Country?.
Stopped freedom of movement, Stopped immigration and curtailed refugees.
Everything in the Country is plentifull again . Britain is once again a powerfull nation on its own.
Is there now a mighty,..... Feel Good Factor...... all over the Country?.
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Well for months now, most on here were bashing Gully when he kept stating that Brexit would cause massive problems, mainly shortages to shops, that is now happening!! Then we had the ones that blamed covid, then we had ones blaming shortages of drivers. Well today the boss of Tescos has stated such, blaming Brexit. Any more bashing to be done???:0)
21:30 Fri 27th Aug 2021
Have some people not noticed that the whole of Europe & the world is in the grip of a pandemic?
There seems to be no aspect of life that hasn't been effected, but shopping, road haulage is expected by some to carry on as normal, so why not blame any inconvenience on Brexit? Can you not somehow find a way to make Donald Trump responsible while you're at it?
There seems to be no aspect of life that hasn't been effected, but shopping, road haulage is expected by some to carry on as normal, so why not blame any inconvenience on Brexit? Can you not somehow find a way to make Donald Trump responsible while you're at it?
//Please specify the "silly rules" that the UK have to follow.//
Here’s an example then: sending a shipment of meat from the UK to the continent involves a 26-stage process. Certifying officers – typically vets – need to check each consignment before departure. Traders need to input details into at least five databases, while obtaining multiple certificates, reference numbers, documents and permits. And all this to receive meat from a country that until eight months ago, was subject to all the same standards EU members were (and which actually complied with them to a far greater degree than many did). You can look up this process if you want to.
The reason the EU behaves like this is not because it is particularly concerned about the standards of the goods it imports. It could easily devise a simpler method for “trusted trader nations” if it wished. Australia and New Zealand (for example) operate just such a programme where individual countries undergo an initial assessment when they apply for permission to export meat to those countries. Once they have passed that assessment the export of meat is straightforward. Regular reassessments are undertaken to ensure the standards are being maintained. The EU refuses to do this because it is a protectionist organisation. It wants to protect its member nations from competition so makes it as difficult as it can for outsiders to compete. It will take time to wean UK businesses away from dealing with the EU but wean themselves away from it they must. Then French and German consumers can have their meat freely shipped in from Romania or Bulgaria where I’m sure the sanitary and health standards are far higher than they are here in the now renegade and lawless UK.
Here’s an example then: sending a shipment of meat from the UK to the continent involves a 26-stage process. Certifying officers – typically vets – need to check each consignment before departure. Traders need to input details into at least five databases, while obtaining multiple certificates, reference numbers, documents and permits. And all this to receive meat from a country that until eight months ago, was subject to all the same standards EU members were (and which actually complied with them to a far greater degree than many did). You can look up this process if you want to.
The reason the EU behaves like this is not because it is particularly concerned about the standards of the goods it imports. It could easily devise a simpler method for “trusted trader nations” if it wished. Australia and New Zealand (for example) operate just such a programme where individual countries undergo an initial assessment when they apply for permission to export meat to those countries. Once they have passed that assessment the export of meat is straightforward. Regular reassessments are undertaken to ensure the standards are being maintained. The EU refuses to do this because it is a protectionist organisation. It wants to protect its member nations from competition so makes it as difficult as it can for outsiders to compete. It will take time to wean UK businesses away from dealing with the EU but wean themselves away from it they must. Then French and German consumers can have their meat freely shipped in from Romania or Bulgaria where I’m sure the sanitary and health standards are far higher than they are here in the now renegade and lawless UK.
Don't forget the lorry drivers who were all stuck in their cabs at Dover over Christmas last year due to Brexit, I doubt very much if they got any extra pay for that. Would you now be a lorry driver, with all that hassle, not to mention normal traffic jams day in day out, so Brexit must have been the last nail in the coffin I would think.
NJ
And these rules - are they only applicable to the UK?
Nope. The import of goods and services to the EU are negotiated territory by territory, and the trading rules which the EU have in place were negotiated by the EU and the UK.
This was known. We signed up to these rules.
They are not silly - this is what we were able to avoid when we were part of the club. Now we’re not part of the club we have to bide by the complex set of rules we signed up to.
If we have goods that have to be transported across multiple countries in the EU, we have to complete documentation that satisfies the border checks per country.
Hence why we are now in this position.
We signed up to this mess.
Or at least 52% of did.
And these rules - are they only applicable to the UK?
Nope. The import of goods and services to the EU are negotiated territory by territory, and the trading rules which the EU have in place were negotiated by the EU and the UK.
This was known. We signed up to these rules.
They are not silly - this is what we were able to avoid when we were part of the club. Now we’re not part of the club we have to bide by the complex set of rules we signed up to.
If we have goods that have to be transported across multiple countries in the EU, we have to complete documentation that satisfies the border checks per country.
Hence why we are now in this position.
We signed up to this mess.
Or at least 52% of did.
"Brexit has returned to the spotlight as hauliers ring alarm bells".
"The RHA and food industry have warned the shortage of HGV drivers has been further exacerbated by the HIGH number of E/U drivers now NOT allowed into U/K because of post brexit visa rules" Boris and Farage didn't mention this when they went on their Brexit Campaign (of course).
"The RHA and food industry have warned the shortage of HGV drivers has been further exacerbated by the HIGH number of E/U drivers now NOT allowed into U/K because of post brexit visa rules" Boris and Farage didn't mention this when they went on their Brexit Campaign (of course).