Transgender Weightlifter Lost...

[Spicerack]

Phew.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58054891

[pixie374]

I watched it. Lol. Purely for you- and while I fully appreciate the mansplaining.... that is not even the law.

[ToraToraTora]

looks like pixie and NTKP agree:
Pixie said: //Lauren Hubbard has never (and it isn't required) had any ops whatsoever.
To apply.... you need to claim your are a woman (magic words, which change everything)//
NTKP said:
//You'll see ops aren't anything to do with it. // so you both a agree that any geezer can claim to be a bird and have full rights to go perving round the girls changing room! - Radio Rental!

[pixie374]

Please, also, stop accusing people of "hate crimes". Are you spath? As a way of trying to shut people up
Especially, when they actually are not. Women, obviously, have very valid concerns- and are perfectly entitled to say so.

[Spicerack]

As pixie says, under Olympic rules a man can say he's transgender, lose some testosterone and compete against women.
Then he can transition back to a man and if good enough(unlikely) have a crack at the men in the next Olympics.

[pixie374]

Nope. What's up with you, today, TTT??? Transsexuals are "protected" so are women.
To be in the Olympics... you need no operations whatsoever.
I don't even agree that intersex males should be allowed to compete against women. They have fought for years and started, so they can compete against each other.
What's wrong with you? Lol

[pixie374]

Thank you, spath- it's not even necessarily about the Olympics - but that a man who is perfectly happy in his biological body, clearly is not dysmorphic.

[pixie374]

Spice, not spath. My mistake!

[New Judge]

//Borderline hate crime I thinks.//

I thinks not. As much as the police and other agencies would like you to believe, having an opinion on matters such as this, which is not "on message", and stating it does not constitute a "hate crime." This issue will be discussed more deeply as soon as women begin to get regularly beaten in sporting competitions by men posing as women, as they are sure to do. Attempting to close the debate down by suggesting that firmly held contrary opinion constitutes a crime will not help.

The answer to this is quite simple. Competitors in sporting events should only be allowed to compete against members of the sex they were born as. The numbers of "transgender" people who will be unfortunately affected by this will be miniscule but it's simply hard luck.

[NeedToKnowPlease]

“Women, obviously, have very valid concerns“

Ah and there we have it! Exposed.

Embarrassing really, especially after 35 years of research.

[pixie374]

While I agree, nj... I don't imagine many people would object to them having their spaces?
The clear problem at the moment, is that girls and women are training exceptionally hard throughout their lives and making sacrifices, to be beaten by a man.
I can't see how anybody, with any empathy (or female friends or relatives) can condone this.

[NeedToKnowPlease]

“ and have full rights to go perving round the girls changing room!“

This statement implies transgender people are perverted and that is a hate crime.

[pixie374]

Why exposed? I've said the same all along. And you trying to equate 27 with 35... perhaps says all I need to know:-D

[Spicerack]

That's it. Me and you are really finished this time.

[pixie374]

Grow up. Fgs. No it doesn't. Men are 98.5% more likely to commit sexual crimes and commit over 90% of violent crimes. Nearly all against females.
Transsexuals and transgender, have the same numbers.
They are no more- and no less- likely to be dangerous to women. Its the same as allowing men into female safe spaces, statistically. And we are entitled not to have to.

[NeedToKnowPlease]

And that has what to do with the olympics? Yawn.

[pixie374]

That women and girls can spend their entire lives training to get to the top of their game- and actually qualify for the Olympics. Only to be beaten by a man.

Have a wild guess.

[Mozz71]

NTKP, nothing tp do with the Olympics, but everything to do with transgenderism.

This thread diverged from the Olympics pages ago.

[pixie374]

And btw, my reply was- obviously- to your previous statement.

[pixie374]

Don't worry... brought it back, mozz x

[Spicerack]

Poor black girls in the US used to rely on a sports scholarship to go to college and escape the ghetto.
Now, usually middle class, transgenders have stolen all their hopes and dreams.
Still, as long as you get your way, ntk.