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10ClarionSt | 22:13 Mon 05th Jul 2021 | News
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...........are useless. If they do the job they're supposed to, why is there such a big increase in positive tests? Admit it; they don't serve any purpose do they?

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They wear rubber boots, TCL
Never been on a bus or a plane when somebody has sneezed or coughed not into a handkerchief?
Not been in a supermarket aisle near somebody with a cold?
My god but you've lived a cocooned life, Clarion.

I educate myself, Clarion. Which is a darn sight more than we can say for you...and others.
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If facemasks did the job that people say they do, the positive results wouldn't be increasing would they?. And if it's because of the DV, then why wear one anyway, if they're not effective against it? (jim @ 22.19)
All the explanations and he still thinks he’s got a point! There’s ignorance and then there’s blind stupidity.
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gness, that video seems to imply, as you do, that no-one ever uses a handkerchief. Wasn't the initial advice to sneeze onto your arm? Not spit everything out for the sake of a scaremongering video exercise?
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I can see that 15 months of govt brainwashing has clearly worked on some people. Other than that, everything's fine thanks! :o)
Clarion. You say that if facemasks work we wouldn't have the increase in positive results.

Sit for a moment and think about that. How much higher would the positive results be if we were all like you and others who looked for excuses not to wear one.
Well, at least some people have a brain to be washed!
10CS- //If facemasks did the job that people say they do, the positive results wouldn't be increasing would they?//

Not necessarily. They could well be slowing down positive tests. As I said you have nothing to compare these results with, so you have no "proof" to offer. The only proof here is proof that you'll use anything to push your anti-mask agenda.
Standard face masks are ineffective, even if worn 'properly' if you don't believe me ask someone to smoke, or vape tobacco & breathe out to watch the smoke pour out, top bottom & sideways.
I wish I had invested heavily into shares in the companies producing these silly objects, I'd now be a billionaire.
Why, if everyone uses a handkerchief would we be sneezing into our arm? If people have to be TOLD to sneeze into an arm then god help us.

I despair of people like you, Clarion. You're one of the reasons it's going to take us an age to get out of this. You should hang your head in shame.
Sadly, Mamya our field is hedged. In my last garden I'd be out there now.
It’s quite frightening that 10CS actually thinks they have a point. They walk among us!
// If facemasks did the job that people say they do, the positive results wouldn't be increasing would they? //

If there are multiple factors involved, then why would this be necessarily an expectation?

The misconception here is clearly that an approach can only be "effective" if it strictly turns the rate of infection increase negative. This is a mistake, for several reasons. The most obvious is that, even if viewed in strict terms (R less than 1 = good, R greater than 1 = bad), one measure alone is rarely enough, but in combination they can be effective. Moreover, the combination is not necessarily linear. More, still, the target may ideally be R below 1, but if this isn't reached then keeping R as low as possible is still preferable. Mask-wearing has been shown to reduce R if it is widespread and encouraged practice.

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/4/e2014564118.full.pdf

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gness, sneezing onto your arm was part of the brilliant advice that the govt gave out in March 2020. Tis true!
They do indeed, Zacs. Once I'd have ignored and maybe even laughed. But in these times it matters and their behaviour and idiocy affects us all so much.
Sneezing into your arm was worldwide advice:
https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/object/1868714
If I'm going to sneeze I use a handkerchief....yes I have dozens of cotton hankies. Other than that I use the acting profession tip for stopping a sneeze.
It may have been advice but I've never really wanted to sneeze into my elbow.
//How do you know that the increase wouldn't be bigger if people didn't wear masks?//

You don’t. Nobody does. You don’t know how much smaller the increase would have been if they had not been mandated either. It’s simply an assumption. There’s never been a “control.” The assumptions, which are based on minimal scientific evidence don’t take account of things like this:

//Dragging a crumpled one out of a pocket? Well that is disgusting and lazy.//

Because that’s what 99% of the population does (just look around you). And I’ve seen a lot worse than that. I’ve seen them pulled from a pocket, dropped on the pavement, picked up and then placed over the nose and mouth. Deightful.

The biggest risk to a wearer is the way he or she treats the practice and almost all people do not follow best practice. In fact many don’t even follow worst practice. They follow no practice at all. That’s why the results of any studies are flawed.

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