The Most Pointless Job In Politics Is About To Be Announced......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53920142
....excited?

[ToraToraTora]

No Mozz, because that would become a standard EUSSR non referendum. Ask the same question until you get the answer you want. However if in a general election people elected a party with a clear intention to overturn a referendum I would consider that an indication that the public had changed it's mind.

[ichkeria]

So you would not have accepted the result of a second referendum, showing that the public had changed its mind on a specific issue
But you WOULD accept a revised verdict on Brexit as a result of an election fought on multiple issues.
That is a strange one.

[ToraToraTora]

no it's not think it through instead of whitewashing it with your own view first.

[ichkeria]

It’s nothing to do with what I think about Brexit.
It just seems odd. Regardless of what the issue was.

[ToraToraTora]

I said originally, "had [the LibDems] won the election they could legitimately have argued that the public had in fact changed their minds," - that does not mean I'd accept or be happy with them overturning it, it means I can accept they'd have a mandate to do so. A second referendum on the same thing without the primary one first being implemented in the interim is not acceptable.

[ichkeria]

In each case the original referendum would be overridden

[ToraToraTora]

yes and one way would be legitimate the the the would not.

[Mozz71]

Legitimate or not Tora, does it still not show that the public has changed it's mind?

[ToraToraTora]

yes it would show that but it would be an act of quislingery to hold it.

[douglas9401]

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[Ellipsis]

> It's difficult to see how someone who's had a consistent position for years can be described as "flip-flipping".

OK, I'll have a go. Flip-flipping is the sound a one-legged person makes in flip-flops. Surely, then, flip-flipping is staying consistent, as you are ... on the left leg, perhaps.

[Mozz71]

//yes it would show that but it would be an act of quislingery to hold it.//

So it's not what the general public think, it's how they're allowed to express it? I couldn't agree any less with you, but it's a moot point now, and I think Brexit has been discussed quite enough in AB, so it's probably time to move on.

[Mozz71]

Well, I can't speak for anyone else Gully, but Tora and I were discussing our differences, no arguments from either side so far as I can tell.

Maybe your problem is that you see any contrary opinion as an argument?

[naomi24]

Jim, //since we are arguing about the definition of democracy//

We’re not.

//someone who's had a consistent position for years//

No doubting your consistency….

[gulliver1]

Oh dear .