Uk Covid Response - As Seen By Greece.

[diddlydo]

Please take a look and think that Boris and Co are still great:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/06/ve-day-heroes-patriotic-multicultural-britain
I hope the link takes you to the article re Greece as the headline is somewhat misleading!

[ToraToraTora]

wouldn't surprise me if the bubbles were fiddling their figures anyway.

[jim360]

They'd have to do quite some fiddling.

[youngmafbog]

It's daft to try and compare different countries. Firstly they do all count differently, some only slightly others quite differently.
Secondly it takes no account of things like population density, ethnicity or obesity.

To simply use the reported death rates of different countries to score political points is simply irresponsible

[ynnafymmi]

@15.11.They have been fiddling figures for the past thirty years,Jim.Why would they stop now?

[ToraToraTora]

jim 15:11, we are talking about the bubbles here! PMSL!

[jim360]

All countries' figures are unreliable to an extent. I don't know how true that is in Greece. Still, in order to be bad enough that Greece were worse than the UK they'd have to have missed something like 4,500 deaths when they are currently reporting 150.

[ynnafymmi]

Jim,Jim,Jim...This is Greece we are talking about...by the way i have a bridge for sale,do you want to buy it....also the Eiffell tower,i own it ...want to buy it along with the bridge?

[jim360]

Tell you what: find an article that supports the apparent claim that there has been a 100%+ rise in mortality rate in Greece in recent weeks and I'll take it back. Until then you seem to be doubting for the sake of it. As I have made clear, the question is not whether the figures are reliable but how unreliable they are -- in order to rubbish the suggestion that Greece has handled this better than the UK, you would need to find 30 times as many Covid-related deaths as have been reported. That is, needless to say, a lot.

Patronising tones don't win arguments here. Facts do.

[douglas9401]

A new double act. Excellent.

[ynnafymmi]

Do you want to buy a bridge,Douglas?

[ynnafymmi]

Hmmm,a new double act.Some would say great minds think alike.Others would say fools never differ.I think i would go along with the latter.

[douglas9401]

Are you moving out from under yours?

[theshedman]

Diddly as you hate Boris so much and as you put it he makes such a mess of everything. At the last election who in your mind do you think would have done any better on this coronavirus and only the leaders of the parties at the time of the election can be considered.

[ynnafymmi]

@15.41.Might do.There is not enough room for both of us.

[jim360]

Some important context when criticising Greece's figures. In the UK, the Government announced a lockdown (closure of schools, shops) when we had reached 4,000 recorded cases and 250 recorded deaths, and extended to a general order not to leave home except if essential at 6,600 cases/600 deaths nationwide. The equivalent measures in Greece were introduced when they had reached 89 recorded cases and zero recorded deaths/700 cases and 20 deaths. Introducing the lockdown so early is, quite simply, bound to have had an effect.

[ynnafymmi]

Oh,give over with your lies,Jim.Do you want to buy my bridge and the Eiffel tower or not?

[iluvmargie]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a stuff what Greece thinks??

[jim360]

I'm not sure what you're going on about. All the figures and information I'm citing are freely available, see e.g. links below

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/greece/

https://www.in.gr/2020/03/22/english-edition/greece-quarantine-mitsotakis-declares-nationwide-lockdown-6am-tomorrow/

https://www.in.gr/2020/04/23/politics/se-ekseliksi-enimerosi-tou-kyvernitikou-ekprosopou-steliou-petsa-2/

[ynnafymmi]

No Margie lover,the Greeks lies are just as disingenuous as the Chinese virologists lies are.

[royfromaus]

Patronising tones don't win arguments here. Facts do.




The problem is different sides have got different facts.